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FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline 2010/12/12 17:32:06 (permalink) MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news. Updated 3/11/11 The good news is I've just fathomed out how to get full control of the Pro Channel EQ via the Mackie. ie The new HPF, LPF the new modes etc. It just requires a bit of fiddling with the Mackie ini file which I've done and I'll post the changes in a second to save some work..... and now the bad news, which maybe someone will be kind enough to confirm for me especially any MCU + XT users out there. All the controls in the prochannel EQ respond okay to the way I have mapped them (you may want to edit them to your preference) but I've found a couple of problems. First, the values being returned by the EQ to the scribble strips are in some cases nonsensical ie. Freq = Off, Q=1.3Hz and other such nonsense. I stress the controls work fine it's just the values being returned to the scribble strips that don't make sense. I don't think it's the way I've set up the file I think it's a Sonar issue. I'd love to be wrong though so please if you find out different let me know. Secondly, I have issues again with the scribble strips but this time flashing on & off. I don't notice this on the first 18 or so values, only when stepping along the controls. I have an XT on the left of my setup and a MCU on the right. When I get so that I can see "Style" appear in the right hand side of the scribble strip (on the MCU) the values to the left of it on the MCU start to flash on & off. This is only the values on the bottom line, not the assignements on the top line and only on the main MCU not the extender. Step back to the left and it stops, very bizarre. Does anyone else see this behaviour? After much deliberation about whether I wanted the HPF slope control or the LPF Frequency next to the HPF frequency I've finally set it up how I want it and here are the changes below. Hope someone finds it useful. Now if they only expose the compressor controls, I may be able to map those to the DYN button. IMPORTANT: IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT YOUR COMPUTER/MCU/BCF EXPLODES, SONAR CRASHES, YOUR WIFE LEAVES YOU OR THE DOG DIES, I ACCEPT NO RESPONSIBILITY WHATSOEVER. YOU LOAD AND USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!! Having said that it works fine for me. You may want to make a copy of your MackieControl.ini file first. Copy & Paste the stuff below the line over top of your [Track Eq] & [Bus Eq] and you'll then have full control of the pro-channel EQ. Of course it'll effect the way the Sonitus EQ will work but I've included the originals which are just commented out, should you wish to use that at any time. EDITED: To correct EQ type display (thanks to Freex), and correct display of LPF & HPF slope readings **Handy tip here is M4+F1 on the MCU will re-load the ini file so you can make changes and test on the fly...... All below this line goes in the ini file as described above ************************************************************************************************************************* ; For Sonitus EQ ;[Track Eq] ;PluginType=1 ;NumVPots=21 ;VPot0=4,freq,0.24 ; Band 1 Freq ;VPot1=5,freq,0.40 ; Band 2 Freq ;VPot2=6,freq,0.65 ; Band 3 Freq ;VPot3=7,freq,0.84 ; Band 4 Freq ;VPot4=8,spread,0.2 ; Band 1 Q ;VPot5=9,spread,0.2 ; Band 2 Q ;VPot6=10,spread,0.2 ; Band 3 Q ;VPot7=11,spread,0.2 ; Band 4 Q ;VPot8=0,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 1 Gain ;VPot9=1,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 2 Gain ;VPot10=2,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 3 Gain ;VPot11=3,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 4 Gain ;VPot12=16,switch ; Band 1 On/Off ;VPot13=17,switch ; Band 2 On/Off ;VPot14=18,switch ; Band 3 On/Off ;VPot15=19,switch ; Band 4 On/Off ;VPot16=12,pan,0.25,0.25 ; Band 1 Type ;VPot17=13,pan,0,0.25 ; Band 2 Type ;VPot18=14,pan,0,0.25 ; Band 3 Type ;VPot19=15,pan,0.5,0.25 ; Band 4 Type ;VPot20=enable,switch ; EQ Enable ;M2VPot0=8,spread,0.2 ; Band 1 Q ;M2VPot1=9,spread,0.2 ; Band 2 Q ;M2VPot2=10,spread,0.2 ; Band 3 Q ;M2VPot3=11,spread,0.2 ; Band 4 Q ;M3VPot0=0,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 1 Gain ;M3VPot1=1,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 2 Gain ;M3VPot2=2,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 3 Gain ;M3VPot3=3,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 4 Gain ;M4VPot0=16,switch ; Band 1 On/Off ;M4VPot1=17,switch ; Band 2 On/Off ;M4VPot2=18,switch ; Band 3 On/Off ;M4VPot3=19,switch ; Band 4 On/Off ;M4VPot4=enable,switch ; EQ Enable ;NumFreqBands=4 ;Gain0=0,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 1 Gain ;Gain1=1,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 2 Gain ;Gain2=2,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 3 Gain ;Gain3=3,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 4 Gain ;CourseFreq0=4,freq,0.24 ; Band 1 Freq ;CourseFreq1=5,freq,0.40 ; Band 2 Freq ;CourseFreq2=6,freq,0.65 ; Band 3 Freq ;CourseFreq3=7,freq,0.84 ; Band 4 Freq ;Q0=8,spread,0.2 ; Band 1 Q ;Q1=9,spread,0.2 ; Band 2 Q ;Q2=10,spread,0.2 ; Band 3 Q ;Q3=11,spread,0.2 ; Band 4 Q ;BandEnable0=16,switch ; Band 1 On/Off ;BandEnable1=17,switch ; Band 2 On/Off ;BandEnable2=18,switch ; Band 3 On/Off ;BandEnable3=19,switch ; Band 4 On/Off ;For Pro Channel EQ [Track Eq] PluginType=1 NumVPots=27 VPot0=5,freq,0.1267 ; LF Freq VPot1=10,freq,0.38205 ; LMF Freq VPot2=14,freq,0.634 ; HMF Freq VPot3=18,freq,0.8745 ; HF Freq VPot4=6,spread,0.5 ; LF Q VPot5=11,spread,0.5 ; LMF Q VPot6=15,spread,0.5 ; HMF Q VPot7=19,spread,0.5 ; HF Q VPot8=4,boost/cut,0.5 ; LF Level VPot9=9,boost/cut,0.5 ; LMF Level VPot10=13,boost/cut,0.5 ; HMF Level VPot11=17,boost/cut,0.5 ; HF Level VPot12=3,switch ; LF On/Off VPot13=8,switch ; LMF On/Off VPot14=12,switch ; HMF On/Off VPot15=16,switch ; HF On/Off VPot16=7,switch ; LF Shelf/Peak VPot17=20,switch ; HF Shelf/Peak VPot18=25,freq,0.1005 ; HPF Freq VPot19=26,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; HPF Slope VPot20=22,freq,0.9677 ; LPF Freq VPot21=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope VPot22=24,switch ; HPF On/Off VPot23=21,switch ; LPF On/Off VPot24=1,pan,0,0.5 ; EQ Type Pure/Vintage/Modern VPot25=2,switch ; Gloss On/Off VPot26=0,switch ; EQ Enable M2VPot0=6,spread,0.5 ; LF Q M2VPot1=11,spread,0.5 ; LMF Q M2VPot2=15,spread,0.5 ; HMF Q M2VPot3=19,spread,0.5 ; HF Q M2VPot4=26,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; HPF Slope M2VPot5=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope M3VPot0=4,boost/cut,0.5 ; LF Gai M3VPot1=9,boost/cut,0.5 ; LMF Gain M3VPot2=13,boost/cut,0.5 ; HMF Gain M3VPot3=17,boost/cut,0.5 ; HF Gain M4VPot0=3,switch ; LF On/Off M4VPot1=8,switch ; LMF On/Off M4VPot2=12,switch ; HMF On/Off M4VPot3=16,switch ; HF On/Off M4VPot4=24,switch ; HPF On/Off m4VPot5=21,switch ; LPF On/Off m4VPot6=7,switch ; LF Shelf/Peak m4VPot7=20,switch ; HF Shelf/Peak M4VPot8=0,switch ; EQ Enable NumFreqBands=6 Gain0=4,boost/cut,0.5 ; LF Gain Gain1=9,boost/cut,0.5 ; LMF Gain Gain2=13,boost/cut,0.5 ; HMF Gain Gain3=17,boost/cut,0.5 ; HF Gain CourseFreq0=5,freq,0.1267 ; LF Freq CourseFreq1=10,freq,0.38205 ; LMF Freq CourseFreq2=14,freq,0.634 ; HMF Freq CourseFreq3=18,freq,0.8745 ; HF Freq CourseFreq4=25,freq,0.1005 ; HPF Freq CourseFreq5=22,freq,0.9677 ; LPF Freq Q0=6,spread,0.5 ; LF Q Q1=11,spread,0.5 ; LMF Q Q2=15,spread,0.5 ; HMF Q Q3=19,spread,0.5 ; HF Q Q4=26,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; HPF Slope Q5=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope BandEnable0=3,switch ; LF On/Off BandEnable1=8,switch ; LMF On/Off BandEnable2=12,switch ; HMF On/Off BandEnable3=16,switch ; HF On/Off BandEnable4=24,switch ; HPF On/Off BandEnable5=21,switch ; LPF On/Off ;For Sonitus EQ ;[Bus Eq] ;PluginType=1 ;NumVPots=21 ;VPot0=4,freq,0.24 ; Band 1 Freq ;VPot1=5,freq,0.40 ; Band 2 Freq ;VPot2=6,freq,0.65 ; Band 3 Freq ;VPot3=7,freq,0.84 ; Band 4 Freq ;VPot4=8,spread,0.2 ; Band 1 Q ;VPot5=9,spread,0.2 ; Band 2 Q ;VPot6=10,spread,0.2 ; Band 3 Q ;VPot7=11,spread,0.2 ; Band 4 Q ;VPot8=0,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 1 Gain ;VPot9=1,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 2 Gain ;VPot10=2,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 3 Gain ;VPot11=3,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 4 Gain ;VPot12=16,switch ; Band 1 On/Off ;VPot13=17,switch ; Band 2 On/Off ;VPot14=18,switch ; Band 3 On/Off ;VPot15=19,switch ; Band 4 On/Off ;VPot16=12,pan,0.25,0.25 ; Band 1 Type ;VPot17=13,pan,0,0.25 ; Band 2 Type ;VPot18=14,pan,0,0.25 ; Band 3 Type ;VPot19=15,pan,0.5,0.25 ; Band 4 Type ;VPot20=enable,switch ; EQ Enable ;M2VPot0=8,spread,0.2 ; Band 1 Q ;M2VPot1=9,spread,0.2 ; Band 2 Q ;M2VPot2=10,spread,0.2 ; Band 3 Q ;M2VPot3=11,spread,0.2 ; Band 4 Q ;M3VPot0=0,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 1 Gain ;M3VPot1=1,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 2 Gain ;M3VPot2=2,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 3 Gain ;M3VPot3=3,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 4 Gain ;M4VPot0=16,switch ; Band 1 On/Off ;M4VPot1=17,switch ; Band 2 On/Off ;M4VPot2=18,switch ; Band 3 On/Off ;M4VPot3=19,switch ; Band 4 On/Off ;M4VPot4=enable,switch ; EQ Enable ;NumFreqBands=4 ;Gain0=0,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 1 Gain ;Gain1=1,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 2 Gain ;Gain2=2,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 3 Gain ;Gain3=3,boost/cut,0.5 ; Band 4 Gain ;CourseFreq0=4,freq,0.24 ; Band 1 Freq ;CourseFreq1=5,freq,0.40 ; Band 2 Freq ;CourseFreq2=6,freq,0.65 ; Band 3 Freq ;CourseFreq3=7,freq,0.84 ; Band 4 Freq ;Q0=8,spread,0.2 ; Band 1 Q ;Q1=9,spread,0.2 ; Band 2 Q ;Q2=10,spread,0.2 ; Band 3 Q ;Q3=11,spread,0.2 ; Band 4 Q ;BandEnable0=16,switch ; Band 1 On/Off ;BandEnable1=17,switch ; Band 2 On/Off ;BandEnable2=18,switch ; Band 3 On/Off ;BandEnable3=19,switch ; Band 4 On/Off ; For Pro Channel EQ [Bus Eq] PluginType=1 NumVPots=27 VPot0=5,freq,0.1267 ; LF Freq VPot1=10,freq,0.38205 ; LMF Freq VPot2=14,freq,0.634 ; HMF Freq VPot3=18,freq,0.8745 ; HF Freq VPot4=6,spread,0.5 ; LF Q VPot5=11,spread,0.5 ; LMF Q VPot6=15,spread,0.5 ; HMF Q VPot7=19,spread,0.5 ; HF Q VPot8=4,boost/cut,0.5 ; LF Level VPot9=9,boost/cut,0.5 ; LMF Level VPot10=13,boost/cut,0.5 ; HMF Level VPot11=17,boost/cut,0.5 ; HF Level VPot12=3,switch ; LF On/Off VPot13=8,switch ; LMF On/Off VPot14=12,switch ; HMF On/Off VPot15=16,switch ; HF On/Off VPot16=7,switch ; LF Shelf/Peak VPot17=20,switch ; HF Shelf/Peak VPot18=25,freq,0.1005 ; HPF Freq VPot19=26,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; HPF Slope VPot20=22,freq,0.9677 ; LPF Freq VPot21=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope VPot22=24,switch ; HPF On/Off VPot23=21,switch ; LPF On/Off VPot24=1,pan, 0.5, 0.5 ; EQ Type Pure/Vintage/Modern VPot25=2,switch ; Gloss On/Off VPot26=0,switch ; EQ Enable M2VPot0=6,spread,0.5 ; LF Q M2VPot1=11,spread,0.5 ; LMF Q M2VPot2=15,spread,0.5 ; HMF Q M2VPot3=19,spread,0.5 ; HF Q M2VPot4=26,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; HPF Slope M2VPot5=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope M3VPot0=4,boost/cut,0.5 ; LF Gain M3VPot1=9,boost/cut,0.5 ; LMF Gain M3VPot2=13,boost/cut,0.5 ; HMF Gain M3VPot3=17,boost/cut,0.5 ; HF Gain M4VPot0=3,switch ; LF On/Off M4VPot1=8,switch ; LMF On/Off M4VPot2=12,switch ; HMF On/Off M4VPot3=16,switch ; HF On/Off M4VPot4=24,switch ; HPF On/Off m4VPot5=21,switch ; LPF On/Off m4VPot6=7,switch ; LF Shelf/Peak m4VPot7=20,switch ; HF Shelf/Peak M4VPot8=0,switch ; EQ Enable NumFreqBands=6 Gain0=4,boost/cut,0.5 ; LF Gain Gain1=9,boost/cut,0.5 ; LMF Gain Gain2=13,boost/cut,0.5 ; HMF Gain Gain3=17,boost/cut,0.5 ; HF Gain CourseFreq0=5,freq,0.1267 ; LF Freq CourseFreq1=10,freq,0.38205 ; LMF Freq CourseFreq2=14,freq,0.634 ; HMF Freq CourseFreq3=18,freq,0.8745 ; HF Freq CourseFreq4=25,freq,0.1005 ; HPF Freq CourseFreq5=22,freq,0.9677 ; LPF Freq Q0=6,spread,0.5 ; LF Q Q1=11,spread,0.5 ; LMF Q Q2=15,spread,0.5 ; HMF Q Q3=19,spread,0.5 ; HF Q Q4=26,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; HPF Slope Q5=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope BandEnable0=3,switch ; LF On/Off BandEnable1=8,switch ; LMF On/Off BandEnable2=12,switch ; HMF On/Off BandEnable3=16,switch ; HF On/Off BandEnable4=24,switch ; HPF On/Off BandEnable5=21,switch ; LPF On/Off post edited by FastBikerBoy - 2011/11/03 06:57:56 Karl Author of.. 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bitman Max Output Level: -34 dBFS Total Posts : 4105 Joined: 2003/11/06 14:11:54 Location: Keystone Colorado Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2010/12/13 23:40:34 (permalink) FBB, What is the first number? (14) in this instance. The CC# maybe? VPot2=14,freq,0.65 ; HMF Freq I have been trying to determine the CC# for those EQ controls today so I can adapt a BCR2000 plug to it from the Sonitus for which the CC# are known. Thanks. lsb https://www.reverbnation.com/ronnierocks #5
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2010/12/14 04:34:17 (permalink) bitman FBB, What is the first number? (14) in this instance. The CC# maybe? VPot2=14,freq,0.65 ; HMF Freq I have been trying to determine the CC# for those EQ controls today so I can adapt a BCR2000 plug to it from the Sonitus for which the CC# are known. Thanks. The "14" (or any number after the "=") is the position of the parameter as the plugin, or in this case prochannel, presents it to Sonar. If there is no special Mackie mapping for a plugin in the ini file the mackie just reads them in the order they are presented which is usually a bit ad hoc. To see what I mean insert a plugin that isn't already mapped and then go to plugin mode on the Mackie. You'll see all the various parameters that are 'exposed' in the scribble strip or BCFView if using a BCF. Take the left hand one as 0 they are then numbered sequentially until there are no more. At the present time there are 27 parameters exposed by the prochannel that all relate to the EQ. Hence the "VPots=27" bit at the top of the mapping section. All the rest of it is then just deciding what order you want the parameters in and mapping them accordingly. (A bit like a manual version of ACT). To move the parameters into the order you want all you have to do is change the relative VPotxx=x part of each line. Pressing M4+F1 on the MCU allows you to see the changes as you make them, just remember to save the mackiecontrol.ini file first. The other bits pan, switch, freq, are all telling the v-pots how to display the info. I believe/hope that Cakewalk are exposing the rest of the parameters for the pro-channel in the first update. If that's the case the rest of it Compressor/Tube saturation will be mappable as well. The compressor parts will need to be exposed as a separate entity to map it to the "Dyn" button on the MCU because of the way each unit is defined in the header. Worst case is it'll be available in plugin mode. I'll update this post as and when....... Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #6
bitman Max Output Level: -34 dBFS Total Posts : 4105 Joined: 2003/11/06 14:11:54 Location: Keystone Colorado Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2010/12/14 09:35:51 (permalink) Thanks. lsb https://www.reverbnation.com/ronnierocks #7
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2010/12/20 14:23:16 (permalink) Okay, just installed X1a and it's still some good news, some bad news. The good news, the F key function choice is now fixed, all menu choices available plus several others including new ones since 8.5. More good news, the parameters are now returning the correct values that make sense and I'm no longer seeing the flashing scribble strips I described earlier...... Now the bad news. I still can't see the compressor or tube saturation parameters exposed to the MCU. Even with all the "Track EQ" definitions in the MackieControl.ini file removed I still only see the Track EQ parameters, no compressor, no tube saturation. Any help, comment from CW staff much appreciated.......... Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #8
Freex Max Output Level: -81 dBFS Total Posts : 478 Joined: 2010/11/23 11:10:50 Location: Northern Ireland Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/01/16 00:24:58 (permalink) Slight improvement if I may, With line VPot24=1,pan, 0.3, 0.3 ; EQ Type Pure/Vintage/Modern on both Track and Bus Prochannel I was getting a display "??" instead of "vintage" or should I say "Vintag" Changing the values to 0.5 sorted it out. VPot24=1,pan, 0.5, 0.5 ; EQ Type Pure/Vintage/Modern Absolutely awesome work by the way, Asus P9X79, Intel i7-3930k, 32GB RAM ,Windows 7, RME RayDat, Presonus Firestudio, Presonus Digimax FS, Mackie MCU, Mackie XT, Makcie C4, KRK Rokit 6 How To Setup A Drum Map...The Easy Way.PDF #9
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/01/16 03:07:14 (permalink) Of course you may. Great spot as well. I'd incorrectly assumed it was just a bug. I'd also incorrectly assumed that changing the second value from 0.3 to 0.5 would only allow the pot to access 2 of the 3 choices. The first figure (in bold) VPot24=1,pan, 0.5, 0.5 ; EQ Type Pure/Vintage/Modern just controls the default when the V-pot is pressed. So like any of the changes they can be edited to suit the users preference. I have now changed mine to "0" which will default to pure. "0.5" as in your example will default to vintage. "1" will default to Modern. Great job. You haven't had any luck with the compressor or tube saturation by any chance? I just can't seem to get the MCU to "see" either. Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #10
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/01/16 15:06:41 (permalink) Another small change just to make the HPF & LPF slopes display correctly is to change the figures in the relative lines as follows. This is example is for the HPF Slope Change M2VPot4=26,spread,0.2,0.1 ; HPF Slope To M2VPot4=26,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; HPF Slope This will allow the display to update correctly both up and down the scale and when the V-Pot is pressed the slope will default to 12 and display correctly. Remember you'll need to do both the Track EQ and Buss EQ listings. I have updated the original post to incorporate both these changes and also those suggested by Freex. EDIT: I of course mean you'll need to change those figures for every instance of the HPF & LPF slopes. If unsure see the #1 which has now been updated. post edited by FastBikerBoy - 2011/01/16 15:14:14 Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #11
hbb Max Output Level: -88 dBFS Total Posts : 146 Joined: 2006/05/02 20:05:14 Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/01/16 16:13:00 (permalink) Thanks #12
Freex Max Output Level: -81 dBFS Total Posts : 478 Joined: 2010/11/23 11:10:50 Location: Northern Ireland Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/01/16 16:50:54 (permalink) Yeah I like Vpot24 set to 0.5 as it's Push to centre (vintage) then, left(pure) or right(modern), with no need to be exact Haven't had any luck with the comp or tube but I have a feeling ( I think I read somewhere) this is down to X1's programming not releasing the controls, maybe X1b will sort that one out. Nice job again on the update, I've also switched VPot20=22,freq,0.84 ; LPF Freq VPot21=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope around to VPot20=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope VPot21=22,freq,0.84 ; LPF Freq Just to make it flow with the GUI, but that's more presonal taste than function. Asus P9X79, Intel i7-3930k, 32GB RAM ,Windows 7, RME RayDat, Presonus Firestudio, Presonus Digimax FS, Mackie MCU, Mackie XT, Makcie C4, KRK Rokit 6 How To Setup A Drum Map...The Easy Way.PDF #13
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/01/17 01:57:17 (permalink) Yeah that's the great thing about the ini file. Being able to set it up how you want it. Now if they just sort out the compressor and tube sat.......... plus the few odd function key presses that have gone a bit awry........ Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #14
sdpate67 Max Output Level: -84 dBFS Total Posts : 344 Joined: 2008/03/09 09:59:21 Location: Charlottetown, PEI Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/03/29 20:21:57 (permalink) Did you edit the changes into the first post or should we do them ourselves. Awesome work Asus i7-760 Win 8.1/ Sonar Platinum / Lynx Aurora 16 AES16 / Mackie MCU Pro XT C4 / Millennia Media STT1 x 2 TD-1/ UAD-2 Quad x 2 / Neumann O-300 O-810 U87 KM184 x 2 / Shure 57/58 Reverbnation NJN Network #15
Freex Max Output Level: -81 dBFS Total Posts : 478 Joined: 2010/11/23 11:10:50 Location: Northern Ireland Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/03/29 21:43:29 (permalink) Hey sdpate, FBB updated the post so it's just a copy and paste job. Apart from the last tweak I did to make the knobs match with the GUI. VPot20=22,freq,0.84 ; LPF Freq VPot21=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope around to VPot20=23,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; LPF Slope VPot21=22,freq,0.84 ; LPF Freq But that ones more just horses for courses than anything else. If only CW would update the dll to allow Comp and Tube control, I think we'd all be tra-la-la-ing about our day. post edited by Freex - 2011/03/29 22:11:45 Asus P9X79, Intel i7-3930k, 32GB RAM ,Windows 7, RME RayDat, Presonus Firestudio, Presonus Digimax FS, Mackie MCU, Mackie XT, Makcie C4, KRK Rokit 6 How To Setup A Drum Map...The Easy Way.PDF #16
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/03/30 03:22:26 (permalink) Yep as Freex said first post is updated except for the change he mentioned which is a personal thing, much like the rest of it really. +100000000000000000000 to your dll comment Freex I'm also really hoping CW sort out the rest of it, makes the Prochannel a disappointment ATM. Using mice is soooooo last century. Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #17
SilverfoxUK Max Output Level: -85 dBFS Total Posts : 257 Joined: 2006/08/27 12:45:53 Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/08/04 10:36:57 (permalink) Thanks for all efforts on this BCF2000 stuff guys. Much appreciated. After putting my new beast together (See below for new specs) I am up and running and slowly getting my system up to speed. decided on 64bit I have added your code to the Macie control .ini file (thanks FBB) but I have an issue: Basically the rotaries work fine for the first 2 EQ sets of control on the PC but when I go into 'edit mode' and press preset > (i assume this is the correct thing to do to move to the next two controls for the PC EQ, the rotaries do not work as the first two. The smallest turn is turning the knob on the PC is turning it full or min. Almost making it like a switch on-off. If I hold down the D button on my BCF (as per FBB button nomenclature ) it does slow it down a bit but still not right. Also sometimes moving the rotaries on the BCF in the EQ edit mode will start playback in SOnar and other glitchy things... Any ideas? X3 64bit (final update) Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Gigabyte SKT-1155 P67A-UD5 B3 Intel i5 2400 Sandybridge Quad core 6 GB Corsair RAM V-STUDIO 100 (Driver 1.50) M-AudioAxiom 49 Korg PadKontrol BCF2000 #18
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/08/04 11:51:23 (permalink) Is it all of the controls? There is a way to reduce the step size but if you've copied and pasted the file from #1 above they should be the same for all of them. I'm not quite sure I'm following you correctly either. When you say the "next two controls for the PC" do you mean the next 2 parameters or banks of controls? I no longer use a BCF, but I do have an MCU and the behaviour should be the same. Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #19
SilverfoxUK Max Output Level: -85 dBFS Total Posts : 257 Joined: 2006/08/27 12:45:53 Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/08/04 17:04:53 (permalink) Thanks again FBB (As always ;) Sorry if I have not made it clear. Basically on my BCF in PC mode (Plugin on BCF) the first 8 rotaries control the first two parameters of the Pro Channel. To control the 2nd 2 parameters, I put teh bcf2000 into edit-mode and press [Bank>] to move to the next two parameters of the PC. At this point the rotaries not have the same effect on the PC as they did on the first 2. It goes haywire. The parameters (Q, Freq etc) do not move smoothly, transport starts playing back etc. I'mgonna try re-installing the driver for BCF2000. do you reccommend anything else. stepping up to 64 bit seems to be causing me some issues, I just hope this is not another... X3 64bit (final update) Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Gigabyte SKT-1155 P67A-UD5 B3 Intel i5 2400 Sandybridge Quad core 6 GB Corsair RAM V-STUDIO 100 (Driver 1.50) M-AudioAxiom 49 Korg PadKontrol BCF2000 #20
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/08/04 17:32:28 (permalink) That's very strange. IIRC with Win 7 x64 the BCF needs the Windows driver NOT the Behringer one but maybe a current BCF user can confirm that. I'm sure that sounds more like a driver issue than anything else. If you're still getting trouble after installing the right driver we can go from there and try other things but it seems very unusual that it works on one bank but not others. Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #21
SilverfoxUK Max Output Level: -85 dBFS Total Posts : 257 Joined: 2006/08/27 12:45:53 Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/08/05 03:55:59 (permalink) OK. UPDATE. 1. Upgraded the BCF2000 to latest firmware. 2. Uninstalled drivers. 3. Allowed Win 7 to install BCF using it's drivers (I actually spotted this on Blades site) 4. Fired up X1 6. Put BCF into Plugin mode with PC enabled. 7. SAME THING. First 2 sets of PC parameters work fine but moving across to the next 2 parameters goes all screwy. I don't understand it. The rotaries work fine on the first 2 so I assume it isn't my actual unit. switch over and BOOm, doesn't work correctly. As I said before, Moving a rotary (such as the Q) on the 2nd set of PC parameters is like switching it on/off. All or nothing, none/v limited increments. Using it with Sonitus EQ seems to be fine. All I did was copy paste the ini file so I don't think that could have gone wrong. Maybe something to note. My ini file did not have any PC or Sonitus settings listed in it. I just added all the new code provided i this thread at the end. (I also tried this on existin projects, new projects, demo projects) Can anyone else test this with similiar setup please? I have no idea what is going on? Any suggestions? post edited by SilverfoxUK - 2011/08/05 03:59:06 X3 64bit (final update) Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Gigabyte SKT-1155 P67A-UD5 B3 Intel i5 2400 Sandybridge Quad core 6 GB Corsair RAM V-STUDIO 100 (Driver 1.50) M-AudioAxiom 49 Korg PadKontrol BCF2000 #22
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/08/05 04:27:13 (permalink) I think you're on the right lines this needs testing by someone with a similar set up. Seems a very strange issue. The only thing that may help in the ini file is the figure that sets the 'step' when you turn a knob. This figure is always after the third comma in a line but if it isn't present at all defaults to a value of 0.05. To explain further in the line VPot19=26,spread,0.143,0.142855 ; HPF Slope the figure in red sets the step as you turn the dial. That's such an odd figure to balance up the knob movement with how the slope dial responds. Whereas the line VPot20=22,freq,0.84 ; LPF Freq doesn't have a 'step' figure so defaults to 0.05. It may be possible that something has gone awry with your figures in the ini file but I really don't see how as it would affect all banks not just one. I'm as lost as you TBH. Sorry. Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #23
SilverfoxUK Max Output Level: -85 dBFS Total Posts : 257 Joined: 2006/08/27 12:45:53 Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/09/29 08:53:03 (permalink) Right. Back from the thread... So, can anyone with a similiar (i.e x64, Win 7 BCF2000) test this issue for me. I have discovered that I don't actually have the LPF and HPF controls listed on the BCF view. and cannot control them. I tried uninstalling the firmware, drivers, re-installing everything. And yet, still, when I step through to the 2/3rd banks on the BCF2000, turning the pots either makes the knob max or min. and some are just really large increments, say 0, then 50% then max. So FBB are you saying that you can control every PC control with your BCF or are you using a Mackie unit? ANyone else have any ideas? this is riving me nuts X3 64bit (final update) Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Gigabyte SKT-1155 P67A-UD5 B3 Intel i5 2400 Sandybridge Quad core 6 GB Corsair RAM V-STUDIO 100 (Driver 1.50) M-AudioAxiom 49 Korg PadKontrol BCF2000 #24
SilverfoxUK Max Output Level: -85 dBFS Total Posts : 257 Joined: 2006/08/27 12:45:53 Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/09/29 09:36:29 (permalink) Hey FBB, I have been looking at this great page: http://www.chrisboucher.c./cakewalk/mackiecontrol/ I just re-read your original post at teh top of this thread and realized something. you say: "Copy & Paste the stuff below the line over top of your [Track Eq] & [Bus Eq]" Now, I copied all the text and pasted it UNDER what was already existing in my MackieControl.ini do you think that my be my issue? my ini file may contain the original settings as default and is fighting the additional parameters I have copied from your post? I'm at work at the mo so cannot check till later. It would make some sense as in the parameters you have listed for the PC it goes up to 'vpot 26' so I assume I should have at least 26 vpots working? at present I can only 'bank' across twice on my BCF = 8, 16, 24. if there was 26, surely I would be able to 'bank' across again? Brain hurting... p.s. ****Handy tip here is M4+F1 on the MCU will re-load the ini file so you can make changes and test on the fly...... - Is there a way to do this on the BCF2000? post edited by SilverfoxUK - 2011/09/29 10:26:09 X3 64bit (final update) Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Gigabyte SKT-1155 P67A-UD5 B3 Intel i5 2400 Sandybridge Quad core 6 GB Corsair RAM V-STUDIO 100 (Driver 1.50) M-AudioAxiom 49 Korg PadKontrol BCF2000 #25
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/09/29 10:33:06 (permalink) Now, I copied all the text and pasted it UNDER what was already existing in my MackieControl.ini do you think that my be my issue? my ini file may contain the original settings as default and is fighting the additional parameters I have copied from your post? Hi again. That definitely won't be helping. I left the original settings in the cut & paste bit but commented them out. Try deleting the originals in your ini file and see if that cures it. Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #26
SilverfoxUK Max Output Level: -85 dBFS Total Posts : 257 Joined: 2006/08/27 12:45:53 Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/09/29 10:35:13 (permalink) Ok, cheers FBB. What about the "M4+F1 on the MCU will re-load the ini file" that possible on the BCF? X3 64bit (final update) Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Gigabyte SKT-1155 P67A-UD5 B3 Intel i5 2400 Sandybridge Quad core 6 GB Corsair RAM V-STUDIO 100 (Driver 1.50) M-AudioAxiom 49 Korg PadKontrol BCF2000 #27
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/09/29 10:39:03 (permalink) I wouldn't have thought so, that is one of the limitations of the BCF, only the one M key as opposed to 4. Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #28
SilverfoxUK Max Output Level: -85 dBFS Total Posts : 257 Joined: 2006/08/27 12:45:53 Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/09/29 10:51:23 (permalink) So how do you reload the .ini file if you have made a live change? Close X1? or restart the BCF? X3 64bit (final update) Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Gigabyte SKT-1155 P67A-UD5 B3 Intel i5 2400 Sandybridge Quad core 6 GB Corsair RAM V-STUDIO 100 (Driver 1.50) M-AudioAxiom 49 Korg PadKontrol BCF2000 #29
FastBikerBoy Forum Host Total Posts : 11326 Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36 Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK Status: offline Re:MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news.............. 2011/09/29 12:00:48 (permalink) I guess you need to restart the BCF and I'm pretty sure that'll upset Sonar so maybe shutting Sonar and re-opening will be the only way. Karl Author of.. SWA Cakewalk Sonar 2015 - New features Video Contents PDFs Free Videos #30