I am a gear addict and would spend my “milk and bread” money on new electronics, especially computers. I also know that I have to wait for Windows 8 to get stable and new hardware to become available. I do not see XP as legacy system. Next time, I will just not invest 4k in to computer. But then again- I wanted 15,000 rpm drives, and back then they cost $900 each, I had 3. It cost me $400 each to replace each of them, plus motherboard and 3 Gb of memory- if you wondering- I had electrical distribution problem on motherboard which was sending wrong voltage to all parts, which burned fans, which burned drives and memory. With all new parts, it is almost new computer. I may even get wild and try to install Win 8 on it. That would be funny, if it works. But- no, it won’t. Only 3 Gb of memory and single processor… also the other drivers for drives and videocard will not be supported… I am just going to install SP X2 and see what happens.
 
Bvideo, thank you for the idea, I will look in to it. You are the one of few that posted something useful. I have to stay with this system for a while, and I hope it going to make this last reconfiguration. This system is a survivor and real worrier. Yes, I can buy $800 system, but then the drivers won’t work for sound card… I need at least 24 channels, so I am looking at StudioLive, which is about 3.5 K now days… It would be great if Sonar just installs. I promise not to update it any more. Just this version. Lol.    

My is connected to the Internet, and has Norton 360 latest. I do not go on internet with it but it connected and downloads all upgrades for Windows. By the way- Microsoft still supports XP- all upgdates they release so far are for XP, Vista and W7.  

Gregmang


My XP has been unbelievably stable for years as its NEVER been on the internet.  Literally never.  It is foolproof and as fast today as it was the day I installed it.  The only software that it has installed all relate to musical creation and production.

That probably means you should stay with the DAW version you are presently running until you are ready to upgrade your OS also. I don't think it necessarily follows that because your system is stable, Cake should support XP. I just upgraded to Win 7 myself a few weeks ago - lots of software (NI as an example) no longer supporting XP or Vista.

By the way- Microsoft still supports XP- all upgdates they release so far are for XP, Vista and W7.  

They created the software, so of course they'll support it longer than companies who write programs. Windows XP is great for surfing the web and simple apps, or using as a simple storage server, but it lacks the power in both design and hardware specs for a high-end DAW in 2012.

Give up the fight man. You won't win!


TIME MARCHES ON!


Btw, you spent $99 on a program, yet you can get a pretty machine decent enough for X2 for $400. Bad money management!

This shouldn't come as a big surprise. We stated on all our system requirements that SONAR X2 will only support Win 7 and Win 8. We are no longer supporting XP or Vista. 

X2 running awesomely on my XP as best as I can tell.

vladasyn -- here's another tip for installing when your C: space is low: http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2668514

paulo

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

XP is completely unsupported with SONAR X2. Future updates of X2 will not even install on XP so its not worth the trouble of installing IMO.

Hmmmm ! Not quite the "there are no specific reasons why it shouldn't work, but XP is no longer part of our official testing matrix and therefore is not officially supported. " answer that was supplied by Brandon when the XP question was asked before !!

The level of access this forum has to you guys is one of the things I think is great about Cakewalk and I would never want that to change, but it's not really helpful when different CW people give differing answers to the same subject.

It would have been nice to know that updates to X2 won't even install on XP prior to having my money taken for X2. If I was feeling slightly more cynical....

And here, Windows 7 has JUST eclipsed Windows XP:   http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/03/tech/gaming-gadgets/microsoft-windows-7/?iref=obinsite

I doubt that my Q6600 would run Win 8.

 
FWIW, I'm successfully running Win7 64 on a Q9300 (Asus P5N-D) with 8GB RAM.  I have a triple boot with WinXP and Vista, but I haven't loaded XP once since installing Win7 and Vista only when I need to run PTLE (and that's been a while).   Based on the performance reports so far for Win8, I don't expect the hardware to be a problem.   It's finding the time to reinstall everything. 

Windows XP is great for surfing the web and simple apps, or using as a simple storage server, but it lacks the power in both design and hardware specs for a high-end DAW in 2012.

That is a load of hooey. Dood.

Comment about what? I think what I said earlier is perfectly clear. 
If you want more technical details  read the Windows 8 SDK here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/hh852363.aspx#Requirements


The Windows SDK can be used to build applications that target the following operating systems:
Windows 8
Windows Server 2012
Windows 7
Windows Server 2008 R2
Windows Vista
Windows Server 2008

With regard to multi-touch support Vista is not even part of the above matrix

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

Comment about what? I think what I said earlier is perfectly clear.

His question was about Cakewalk employee's contradicting each others statements.

I'm not saying I agree with Paulo because I didn't see what Brandon said ... but you did completely avoid his question by responding with something irrelevant to his inquiry. I would think you'd jump right on Paulo's question to set him straight or to say, oops, Brandon was mistaken.

Nobody can be perfect 100% of the time. If Brandon gave the impression X2 'might' run on XP even though it's crystal clear Cakewalk does not support it, and it in fact won't run because of a future update, I'm 100% certain Brandon had no intention of trying to cause confusion or be misleading.

I was very aware XP is no longer supported, so I would never even try to run X2 on XP. Why are we even wasting our time with this guys? You want to run XP, stick with X1. Better yet, stick with 8.5!

XP is dead, along with the desktop PC. Windows 8 is Microsoft's transition in to the touchscreen, $.99 cent app world for your home. Life as we know it is going to change very very soon. Whether or not Windows 8 goes the way of Windows ME or Vista (although after about 400GB of updates, Vista is pretty damn good), Windows 9 with all the bugs fixed, and the app/touchscreen technology better tuned, is going to be our future. It will get to a point where there will be no desktop to run a DAW, then Cakewalk will have to completely change Sonar and the way we work.

Thanks,

Bub

Brandon isn't a developer :) Seriously that was posted in August and before we started work on the Win8 specific stuff.
When we say its not officially supported it means that any limitations that may exist may not even be discovered since we aren't testing that OS anymore. 
In this case Brandon simply wasn't aware of the limitations of XP as it related to future development. He wasn't trying to intentionally mislead anyone. Anyone choosing to use an unsupported OS does so at their own risk since an update could break something.

My beef is that if future updates cannot even be installed on XP then we should have been told BEFORE we took the plunge and bought X2 in the first place.