iOS7 will be flat and functional, maybe plugs going in same direction?

I think Apple App Dev's are about to find out that IOS 7 breaks all their stuff.  All iPhone/iPad/iPod apps will need to be updated.  A lot of those apps will not be updated, and I bet a lot of people will buy their next, "iWhatever," and it will be their last, "iWhatever."

I do not see how Apple can go, "metrophonual," without totally hacking up the code.

As far as plugins go..  I really like, "flat, functional, cool."  Oxium is a good example of that.

Rapture has been this since 2007?   July 07?  Whenever it came out.   Rapture was the GUI that really broke this barrier.  May not have been, "the first," definitely one of..   Certainly the most famous.

The article I was reading was quite interesting and went into the reasons why "realistic" design - or skeuomorphism as it's called - began in the first place. In the early days of graphical computer interfaces, icons and buttons were modeled to look like their counterparts in real life in order to minimize confusion for people who were new to computers and might have trouble internalizing the concept of computer "folders" and digital "files." So you had little Manila folder icons etc. These days, it's less and less clear why skeuomorphism should exist. Most everyone has grown up with computers or at least used them for decades. We don't really need these mental crutches any more. 

I think I prefer the flat GUI's. To me they seem more sophisticated and elegant. 

As for iOS7, I have been led to understand that it's mainly just a graphical update, with few new bells and whistles. I think they know they'd be shooting themselves in the foot if current apps were rendered incompatible. 

Rain


Have you seen the more recent versions of iTune? They got rid of buttons and stuff. I preferred the old versions. .

I installed it on my third computer and decided it was horrible. I will not update the computer I use for my music collection until I absolutely must. I guess the basic functionality I could no longer find is in there somewhere. Simple things like, sorting by artist or album. I suppose it's cntl+shift+alt+F7 now. 

Ascetically, how ever functional I hate things that look like a child's toy computer. The Win 8 metro start screen being prime example (IMHO of course). I would not put Valhallaroom's into that catagory, its purly fuctional, appearance is neither good, or bad.
 

Rain


Have you seen the more recent versions of iTune? They got rid of buttons and stuff. I preferred the old versions. But it may be an indication. As far as visual, for me, as long as it doesn't suck as badly as W8... ;)






For me, anyway they decide to go... As long as it works and sound good.

That's just horrible
 
Whilst I agree that it shouldn't matter, it does a bit. There are some good sounds in Sampletank, but I tend not to use/be inspired by it because the UI is too fiddly (are you paying attention here iK Obi?)
 
Never had W7, but W8 is immeasurably better than vista for me.
 
 

paulo

Rain


Have you seen the more recent versions of iTune? They got rid of buttons and stuff. I preferred the old versions. But it may be an indication. As far as visual, for me, as long as it doesn't suck as badly as W8... ;)






For me, anyway they decide to go... As long as it works and sound good.

That's just horrible  
  

  
 

I have never seen that synth before but the interface, while ugly as sin, is intuitive and functional. I could start editing sounds without having to read the manual, print out a list of short cuts, dig deep into menus or whatever.

Still better than Windows?  Have you tried Windows Phone man?  I am not trolling you, or flaming you, but I would like to, "suggest, in a very friendly way," that Windows Phone is really, really cool.  I'm still loving my Nokia that I got about a month ago...  I traded my iphone 4 in, and re'upped my at & t contract.  My Lumia 920 is really cool.  I think the Windows Phone OS is killer
 
:-)

 
I don't know..  Win Phone is all modern.   A lot of these tiles, are constanly changing, and updating.  I can't show you all my tiles, but for example..  On Win Phone, there is a tile called "People" and that flips pictures of all your friends and stuff.  I scrolled down to hide it, ya know?  To protect the privacy of my friends..  but I have other tiles below from the weather channel, and one for background photos, and my updates on FB, Twitter, and LinkedIn, and there are constantly updating.  
 
On apple, those icons stand still.  On Win phone, the thing is, "alive."  
 
Sorry Rain, but..  Win Phone is so cool!

I'm crossing my fingers that this trend will become a thing of the past before it makes it to the actual computer OS.
 
In the meantime, people will have plenty to rip on w/ the new Mac Pro - which many have already dubbed the Trash Can. 

 
Personally, I'll wait before I see one in person before I make a judgement. But it's black, so we're off to a good start. ;) 

You'd think Steve Jobs was dead or something!

sharke
I quite like it. I've always liked less busy, minimalist designs - and I quite like bright colors too. I'm looking forward to updating. 

 
Well I do like something.  I like the trashcan Mac Pro.  It looks very modern and kinda Ikea.  I always loved Ikea.  So, + 1 on that.

Uh.. I do not know if I am ever buying another PC again. I'm hanging on to my nice 24 inch p, um monitor I mean.. But I think a next Gen or 3rd Gen surface pro is my next, "workstation, tablet, pc, toaster that runs software" whatever we call them now

It has the merit of being surprising and breaking away from the norm. Who ever said that the current tower was the definitive best-possible incarnation of the desktop computer, anyway...
 
One thing about Apple is that, when they decide to move forward, they usually go all the way and drop whatever they feel is going away in a near future. There's hardly a thing like a transition period, and they get a lot of heat for that. That's what happened when they ditched the floppy drive, that's what happened when they shipped the MacBook Air w/o a dvd drive...
 
And now they've created a computer that's basically just a component of the ecosystem. People hanging to their PCI cards will have to go external. The new Mac is all about Thunderbolt 2 and USB 3.
 
For people who equated the Mac Pro with expandability but still liked to have it all within the tower, I guess that this marks the end. 
 
I'm not sure how people will react. For example, the cube was a great idea imho but it failed. This new one does look promising. The design kind of makes sense, I think. Something more square-ish would probably be easier to tuck in a corner somewhere, but the cylinder is nice too.

Well, the Apple one may be twice the price but it won't cost me a minute of my time researching which components will work with which others and putting the actual thing together. Time is money. 
 
And also, five years from now when I decide to replace it, it will still have resale value. 
 
 
I had to pay to get rid of my last couple of PCs... Literally.
 

Rain
Time is money.

 
Coming from you... that is...  hilarious.
 
BTW, this is me being nice. :-)
 
all the best,
mike 

Better get use to it because unfortunately it's inevitable that the GUI will become more simplified as the GUI moves to a new direction -- examples, 

. HUD - Heads-Up Display, more basic ones commonly used in aircrafts for over a decade.  With HUD there will be no more luggin around large monitors to concerts, the more advanced HUD will probably be a tiny device that can be positioned anywhere and cost much less for manufacturing and materials which means only a mere fraction of the price compared to a 32" LCD monitor or how about a 62 inch for just $200.  The new HUD will have much better graphic display with transparency settings (which is part of the reason why the GUI will need to be simplified) and of course have excellent user-interaction using, 

. Gestures UI - already you can get a Gestures Interface the size of a USB stick for just $60 and this tiny little box is dead simple to use -- connects via USB and your ready to roll, wave and jiggle LOL!!.  And, 

. VUI - Voice UI but much better than previous speech UI software. The latest VUI will have more features and be more precision along with a secure lock-out to your voice that can also be a voice-print for secure only shopping and a fast universal translator.  Samsung has already developed the next generation VUI and hopefully from there it will be greatly improved within a year or so.   VUI --- much like in the Star-Trek movie, the computer will also talk back and users settings to change the voice to whatever you prefer (Darth Vader?, Chipmunks?, Marilyn Monroe?, Elvis?, Captain Kirk?, SnagglePuss?, Army Drill Sergeant?,) so basically whatever personality you want --- do you 'really' want your PC to have way more attitude? LOL!! 

So yeah, eventually we'll see much larger Heads-up Displays (HUD) much like in the movie, Minority Report but have both Gestures and voice UI. 
 
PS: I read that Apple is developing the Heads-Up Display initially to be introduced in a watch, a miniature iPhone wearable watch format.