markarbogast
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lifetime updates
I started using Cakewalk for DOS version 1.1 before color monitors and before Windows was invented. No mouse. I have stayed with it all these many years even though there was always pressure from people in the business to use other software. I finally purchased the lifetime updates reciently. i would like to hope this will be honored by the new company. if not i will have to finally switch to Pro Tools. its a sad day.....
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Re: lifetime updates
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☄ Helpfulby jude77 2018/03/23 00:27:04
Looks like you will be switching to Pro Tools then . . . Enjoy the change, you'll probably find it liberating, refreshing, and something you should have done long ago . . . and of course there is always other DAW's where you will likely experience the same emotions . . . embrace it
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Re: lifetime updates
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☄ Helpfulby sharke 2018/03/22 23:30:00
So many posts in the past 5 months, starting with their 'Cakewalk life story' . DOS this, Windows 3.1 that, Soundblaster, floppy etc...
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Re: lifetime updates
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☄ Helpfulby iRelevant 2018/03/23 23:42:12
Kamikaze So many posts in the past 5 months, starting with their 'Cakewalk life story' . DOS this, Windows 3.1 that, Soundblaster, floppy etc...
LOL yeah that's been grinding my gears as well. It's like there's some kind of template going around. "Let me just say that I've been using Cakewalk since 1989. Here's a photo of my original floppies, which I still have. Here's a list of the versions I've used since then. I was shocked to learn recently that blah blah blah, lifetime updates, blah blah blibbety outrage disgust sadness disappointment." Does tend to get a little samey.
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Re: lifetime updates
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 00:11:14
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2018/03/24 02:18:44
I started using Cakewalk in 1936 on my first Turing Machine. Look here's a photo of the 12 Tone fanies that came with it. If the company that has no obligation to me as a customer doesn't give me free support for the rest of my life, then I'm not going to give them the money I wasn't going to give them.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 00:35:52
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markarbogast I started using Cakewalk for DOS version 1.1 before color monitors and before Windows was invented. No mouse. I have stayed with it all these many years even though there was always pressure from people in the business to use other software. I finally purchased the lifetime updates reciently. i would like to hope this will be honored by the new company. if not i will have to finally switch to Pro Tools. its a sad day.....
I'm not being smarmy I promise, but Bandlab didn't promise you lifetime upgrades; Cakewalk/Gibson did, and they went out of business. In turn, Bandlab didn't buy the CW business, they bought the SONAR code. That's two very different things. So BL doesn't owe any of us lifetime updates. If they had bought CW then we might have a case, but again they only bought the SONAR code (or some part of it). Best of luck with your music.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 02:22:11
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☄ Helpfulby jude77 2018/03/23 02:38:21
Lifetime updates were for the lifetime of Cakewalk. That ended in Nov 2017.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 03:44:57
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☄ Helpfulby michael diemer 2018/03/23 16:23:54
Hey guys, I feel it is necessary to point out that Cakewalk (product) users have made critical comments (in other forums) regarding the hostility in our forums. The Cakewalk forums always had the great reputation of being a friendly and helpful place. So can you please help the rest of us restore that reputation particularly as we make the move to the BandLab community? I for one would greatly appreciate it. Kind regards, tecknot
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 05:15:22
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sharke
Kamikaze So many posts in the past 5 months, starting with their 'Cakewalk life story' . DOS this, Windows 3.1 that, Soundblaster, floppy etc...
LOL yeah that's been grinding my gears as well. It's like there's some kind of template going around. "Let me just say that I've been using Cakewalk since 1989. Here's a photo of my original floppies, which I still have. Here's a list of the versions I've used since then. I was shocked to learn recently that blah blah blah, lifetime updates, blah blah blibbety outrage disgust sadness disappointment." Does tend to get a little samey.
It almost makes it look like Cakewalk couldn't get any new customers over the last 30 years. I suppose that would explain their finances if they hadn't gotten any new blood over such a long time span.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 05:24:38
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☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2018/03/23 07:01:10
Being nice is one thing but too be bombarded with these threads is long on the tooth and at some point the tension needs to be released. Common sense should at some point be pointed out. Lifetime is not one sided it goes both ways...no matter how long you have been using the product.
I have spent close to 1600.00 dollars on Cakewalk products over the years knowing full well that I own nothing but the permission to use the product, I appreciate the fact really.
When I look at these thread's it befuddles me why a licensee doesn't read or understand the EULA, you know, that thing you check off when you load the software that you have to agree too BEFORE you install, that was with Cakewalk NOT Bandlab, as a reasonable assumption given the fact it's a different entity.
Meng has already stated they will work with us, more than fair in my opinion so let's wait and see. These threads demanding otherwise are completelty unfair whether that creates the impression of being hostile to point that out is in the minds of those looking to shoot down the forum anyway... Once agian in my opinion.
This makes me think the same way about Facebook, all this fuss about stolen data that anyone who signed up for Facebook or it's app's agreed too in their "Terms of Agreement".
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 06:35:41
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Being hostile doesn't make hostility go away.
Enjoy the time you've got, because it's all the time you get.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 12:30:22
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/03/23 14:36:01
abacab Lifetime updates were for the lifetime of Cakewalk. That ended in Nov 2017.
This is the only correct answer
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Re: lifetime updates
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/03/23 14:36:29
Zargg
abacab Lifetime updates were for the lifetime of Cakewalk. That ended in Nov 2017.
This is the only correct answer
Seconded!
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Re: lifetime updates
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/03/23 12:56:17
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abacab Lifetime updates were for the lifetime of Cakewalk. That ended in Nov 2017.
This is the only correct answer
Seconded!
Motion to classify as FACT ...
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Re: lifetime updates
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sharke
Kamikaze So many posts in the past 5 months, starting with their 'Cakewalk life story' . DOS this, Windows 3.1 that, Soundblaster, floppy etc...
LOL yeah that's been grinding my gears as well. It's like there's some kind of template going around. "Let me just say that I've been using Cakewalk since 1989. Here's a photo of my original floppies, which I still have. Here's a list of the versions I've used since then. I was shocked to learn recently that blah blah blah, lifetime updates, blah blah blibbety outrage disgust sadness disappointment." Does tend to get a little samey.
It almost makes it look like Cakewalk couldn't get any new customers over the last 30 years. I suppose that would explain their finances if they hadn't gotten any new blood over such a long time span.
they got at least 23 new customers in the last 30 years... but then we've all been here forever, so ... (etc) /hth/goodluckeveryone
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Re: lifetime updates
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☄ Helpfulby marled 2018/03/24 21:14:34
Zargg
abacab Lifetime updates were for the lifetime of Cakewalk. That ended in Nov 2017.
This is the only correct answer
Well, not exactly. Mr Meng writes there will be some "Sonar based DAW" and Sonar customers will probably get it for free. Also note that BandLab has "everything for free" claim. And that can continue for unpredictable time. On one side, there are articles BandLab will have commercial success in the near future. But: a) that is not possible with "everything for free" approach till it is at least filled with Ads b) taking personalities into account... that is not "a must". I have the central store of on big German music on-line near me. In the middle of nowhere. I was there several times and the number of visitors was less the the number of friendly personal. Take several guitars and amps into separate sound isolated personal room, and catch someone in case you can not connect/play yourself. Enjoy the day If you think that can not be truth: https://www.session.de/filialen/walldorf/Notice the address, check in Wiki: the town population is ~16k, nearest really big town is ~100km away (and they have another store there: https://www.session.de/filialen/frankfurt/ ). Can that have commercial sense? I do not think so. Yet it exists since ~10 years. I mean in case someone has money, he is free to do whatever with them.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 14:52:52
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Zargg
abacab Lifetime updates were for the lifetime of Cakewalk. That ended in Nov 2017.
This is the only correct answer
Well, not exactly. Mr Meng writes there will be some "Sonar based DAW" and Sonar customers will probably get it for free. Also note that BandLab has "everything for free" claim. And that can continue for unpredictable time. On one side, there are articles BandLab will have commercial success in the near future. But: a) that is not possible with "everything for free" approach till it is at least filled with Ads b) taking personalities into account... that is not "a must". I have the central store of on big German music on-line near me. In the middle of nowhere. I was there several times and the number of visitors was less the the number of friendly personal. Take several guitars and amps into separate sound isolated personal room, and catch someone in case you can not connect/play yourself. Enjoy the day If you think that can not be truth: https://www.session.de/filialen/walldorf/ Notice the address, check in Wiki: the town population is ~16k, nearest really big town is ~100km away (and they have another store there: https://www.session.de/filialen/frankfurt/ ). Can that have commercial sense? I do not think so. Yet it exists since ~10 years. I mean in case someone has money, he is free to do whatever with them.
Cakewalk as a company is no longer in business, therefor it is true. The rest isn't direct quotes, but interpretations of what was written
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 15:01:37
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I could be pretty p'o'd about things. I bought the upgrade to Platinum for $399 a MONTH before the announcement that Cakewalk was going under! It's life. I don't expect s**t from the new owners except allowing me to access my previous versions I paid for. But at the end of the day they don't have to do that. Yeah, as for the "lifetime upgrades", won't happen, and righteously so.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 16:05:28
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in the EU i think you could get yr money back under consumer laws were you such inclined
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 16:54:27
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CTStump Being nice is one thing but too be bombarded with these threads is long on the tooth and at some point the tension needs to be released. Common sense should at some point be pointed out. Lifetime is not one sided it goes both ways...no matter how long you have been using the product.
Hi Charles. Not to beat a horse to death or labor an argument... My criticism is not about/around the question itself (or how many times it has been asked), but is directed to the comments made about the OP stating his long history and attacking him and others like him for doing so and then again bashing him/her for asking a legitimate question concerning the OP's loyal and continued investment in a company and/or its products. The OP's statement and/or question is NOT cause for the bashing or "ganging up" on the OP. I am asking for civility. I hope that there is a place for patience and tolerance. Certainly we have all been in a place in which we would appreciate that for ourselves, so that can't be too much to ask from everyone here. Kind regards, tecknot
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 17:22:39
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tecknot
CTStump Being nice is one thing but too be bombarded with these threads is long on the tooth and at some point the tension needs to be released. Common sense should at some point be pointed out. Lifetime is not one sided it goes both ways...no matter how long you have been using the product.
Hi Charles. Not to beat a horse to death or labor an argument... My criticism is not about/around the question itself (or how many times it has been asked), but is directed to the comments made about the OP stating his long history and attacking him and others like him for doing so and then again bashing him/her for asking a legitimate question concerning the OP's loyal and continued investment in a company and/or its products. The OP's statement and/or question is NOT cause for the bashing or "ganging up" on the OP. I am asking for civility. I hope that there is a place for patience and tolerance. Certainly we have all been in a place in which we would appreciate that for ourselves, so that can't be too much to ask from everyone here. Kind regards, tecknot
I can definitely agree with that. At some point these topics get real close to trolling given that the info is there and the new owner is actively comunicating with us(kudo's are well deserved). Can't blame some for feeling ripped off but to come to the forum and posting without a little research and assuming responsibility where it don't belong is completely another thing. Jumping on them in a snarky manner is uncalled for but is a consequence in a forum patiently(or impatiently) waiting for the next move in the direction of developement and keeping the focus on that...not what is owed, these responses will be posted. I commend your intentions but only time will tell in what we all hope will be new and better direction for Sonar and this forum.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 17:29:00
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Respect, Charles. Peace out, Bro!
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 18:39:45
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☄ Helpfulby fresh101 2018/03/23 20:54:39
markarbogast I finally purchased the lifetime updates reciently. i would like to hope this will be honored by the new company. if not i will have to finally switch to Pro Tools. its a sad day.....
Just remember that with Pro Tools, you have to sign up for lifetime payments to keep the software working.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/23 21:17:55
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CTStump Being nice is one thing but too be bombarded with these threads is long on the tooth and at some point the tension needs to be released. Common sense should at some point be pointed out. Lifetime is not one sided it goes both ways...no matter how long you have been using the product.
I have spent close to 1600.00 dollars on Cakewalk products over the years knowing full well that I own nothing but the permission to use the product, I appreciate the fact really.
When I look at these thread's it befuddles me why a licensee doesn't read or understand the EULA, you know, that thing you check off when you load the software that you have to agree too BEFORE you install, that was with Cakewalk NOT Bandlab, as a reasonable assumption given the fact it's a different entity.
Meng has already stated they will work with us, more than fair in my opinion so let's wait and see. These threads demanding otherwise are completelty unfair whether that creates the impression of being hostile to point that out is in the minds of those looking to shoot down the forum anyway... Once agian in my opinion.
This makes me think the same way about Facebook, all this fuss about stolen data that anyone who signed up for Facebook or it's app's agreed too in their "Terms of Agreement".
I wish you could get multiple "helpfuls." So many people are getting a rude awakening about how tbey have pretty much signed their lives away.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/24 00:54:30
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Lifetime updates means lifetime of Cakewalk not the users.
post edited by J-A-G - 2018/03/24 19:48:48
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/24 01:33:14
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I hope my mention of Facebook does not spark a political response...again (Facepalm)
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/24 18:00:11
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CTStump I should have known the mere mention of Facebook would spark a political response.
(Facepalm...too the extreme!!)
Which also violates the terms of the forum. Hopefully mods will take action.
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/24 19:47:03
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CTStump I should have known the mere mention of Facebook would spark a political response.
(Facepalm...too the extreme!!)
YOU CAUGHT ME! Ya get it? Funny thing is I did not read any of the other posts I only replied to the OP's. This being said I would have had no clue about your stupid Facebook comment until you made the above statement. So I am very sorry for offending you and another troll who feels the same way. Here is something you may not know. There is a thing called edit in the post...so I edited out my comment as to not offend. Gee you can do the same can't you? Peace! John
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Re: lifetime updates
2018/03/24 20:26:14
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J-A-G
CTStump I should have known the mere mention of Facebook would spark a political response.
(Facepalm...too the extreme!!)
YOU CAUGHT ME! Ya get it? Funny thing is I did not read any of the other posts I only replied to the OP's. This being said I would have had no clue about your stupid Facebook comment until you made the above statement. So I am very sorry for offending you and another troll who feels the same way. Here is something you may not know. There is a thing called edit in the post...so I edited out my comment as to not offend. Gee you can do the same can't you? Peace! John
Geez, get a grip, the only one offended is you and your udder lack of a sense of humor. How can you end your reply with Peace? It definitely did not imply that. I'll have nice day... Hope you do too.
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