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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 11:42:44
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Try toggling offset mode.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 11:52:28
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Thanks for trying y'all!
I tried to clone it. There is definitely something wrong with that track and cloning perpetuates the issue.
Inserting an audio track and copying the WAV files got me to a point where the pan is working.
Some processing between the X3 series of patches corrupted this track somehow. I brought it into X3 from an older SONAR project. Saved as a new X3 project and then started moving things around. The panning worked at one point and then went south. I thought it was a corrupted component of some sort.
Toggling offset did nothing for me.
I can move on now. :) Thanks again y'all!
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 11:59:51
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Strange, it made a big difference for me. When I opened the project there were ~ marks by the volume and the pan. Typing "O" changed the display values of volume from -5.1 to -0.8 and the pan from 100%L to 46%R. Also after typing "O" moving the pan slider worked as expected.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 12:23:28
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Typing "O" did fix things; kind of. The track now pans, as the automation shows it should, however the pan "knob" does not move.  It pans manually as well. HTH, T
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 12:26:24
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My results are the same as the others. It pans right but wont pan left. After coping it to a new track it will pan both left and right.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 13:17:21
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☼ Best Answerby Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk] 2014/03/24 16:09:22
All works normally for me without cloning anything once the Offset panning is removed. I was going to suggest that last night, but it didn't quite fit with the issue description, because even with an offset you can still pan - just not across the same range. And that's what I'm seeing with this project: Since the offset is 46% right, you can pan hard right and somewhat left of center, but you can't pan hard left.
No fault found.
EDIT: Automation, including track inspector and header widget movement is also working normally when read-enabled (with Volume automation raised from -Inf so you can hear it).
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 14:13:18
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Could there be an offset set in offset mode? Try turning on offset mode and seeing if that's the case?
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 14:14:19
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Ops, looks like I was late to the party.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 14:28:17
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brundlefly
All works normally for me without cloning anything once the Offset panning is removed. I was going to suggest that last night, but it didn't quite fit with the issue description, because even with an offset you can still pan - just not across the same range. And that's what I'm seeing with this project: Since the offset is 46% right, you can pan hard right and somewhat left of center, but you can't pan hard left.
No fault found.
EDIT: Automation, including track inspector and header widget movement is also working normally when read-enabled (with Volume automation raised from -Inf so you can hear it).
Hit the nail on the head. I can confirm the results above.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 18:14:43
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Like I said in my post there are lots of complexities to pan and offset mode is one of them :)
You had a track pan set in offset mode. This acts like a second mixer on top of the normal track pan and envelopes.
This is one of the first things to troubleshoot when you have a pan problem like that.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 18:54:14
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Thanks everyone, I appreciate your time and patience. I have no clue how that track got into offset mode. I would not intentionally do that but I have some pretty fat fingers.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/24 19:14:44
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turns out all of my pans were set in offset mode. I would love to delete that pan offset option from my workspace...
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/25 00:26:45
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...Reassign the "O" shortcut key? 
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/25 05:32:34
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I stuck my '' key dwn t stp this frm happening.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/25 07:15:28
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offset mode is very handy believe it or not.
the first thing I do when I receive a project I go through all the levels of all the tracks.
Vocals:
vocals sometimes have levels jumping all over the place. what I do is isolate sections of the song and automate levels of the track to be more consistent. IE- the verse is -6db / the chorus jumps to -1db
this way my compressor is not working over time / breathing trying to fight a level -10db to + 10db.
by doing early automation I can later go in to offset mode and then automate the whole track again and not have to worry about earlier automation moving again.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2014/03/25 11:15:36
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turns out all of my pans were set in offset mode. I would love to delete that pan offset option from my workspace...
I did exactly this. Offset mode can be handy, but I want to be 100% sure I enter it deliberately, not by an accidental click of the O key. In the key bindings section of Preferences, you can assign the O key to "no action" (or something like that). This takes care of the problem.
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Re: Panning mono tracks into stereo busses X3e
2017/04/02 14:35:00
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I'm stuck all my tracks operate visually like they are panning but none of them do, they're all centered no matter where I set pan level. Oddly the meters show panning but not my ears!!
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