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  • Hello from BandLab [Updated 21/3/2018] (p.84)
2018/03/23 16:50:40
scook
ch.huey
scook
The activation process will not change. Noel's post made it very clear:
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
...nothing is going to happen to existing activation's during or after the transition to BandLab. If you choose the reinstall the software the same activation process with apply as before.

What will change is the server maintaining your account information the activation process uses.




So are you saying that Cakewalk Command Center, which connects remotely to a server to authenticate my installation when I login with my email account (now associated with Bandlab as well as Cakewalk, a migration I understand has taken place), will continue to function as it was - it will just now be rerouted to a server that Bandlab hosts?

Yes,  once the account migration is complete, the activation server process can start using the BandLab database. Nothing will change WRT existing activation's during or after the transition to BandLab. SONAR and all the connected products that use the Command Center and the associated "offline" process for activation will remain the same. They were and still are the only "existing activation's." This is why it is important for any user planning on continuing to use SONAR HS/Artist/Professional or Platinum create a BandLab account.
 
 
2018/03/23 17:01:22
ch.huey
scook
ch.huey
scook
The activation process will not change. Noel's post made it very clear:
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
...nothing is going to happen to existing activation's during or after the transition to BandLab. If you choose the reinstall the software the same activation process with apply as before.

What will change is the server maintaining your account information the activation process uses.




So are you saying that Cakewalk Command Center, which connects remotely to a server to authenticate my installation when I login with my email account (now associated with Bandlab as well as Cakewalk, a migration I understand has taken place), will continue to function as it was - it will just now be rerouted to a server that Bandlab hosts?

Yes,  once the account migration is complete, the server process can start using the BandLab database. Nothing will change WRT existing activation's during or after the transition to BandLab. SONAR and all the connected products that use the Command Center and the associated "offline" process for activation will remain the same. They were and still are the only existing activation's at this time. This is why it is important for any user planning on continuing to use SONAR HS/Artist/Professional or Platinum create a BandLab account.
 
 


THANK YOU. I am beside myself with joy at that answer, seriously. That removes so much doubt and uncertainty.
 
Might I suggest you add that as a footnote to Meng's initial post if possible so anyone can easily find it?
 
It is not as clear as it may seem to those who already know, and I don't think I'm the only one who needs it explicitly spelled out. I understand this is a time of transition for Bandlab, but I need to focus on what's on my plate, Sonar Platinum and my projects, which is my priority, and I think many other people are in the same position. I look forward to the new program, but activation on the current program if it's being migrated to new servers is more important than what may be in the new program.
 
Thank you sincerely for clearing that up.

 
2018/03/23 17:08:26
scook
I do not feel comfortable modifying Meng's post. I do believe he reads all the posts in this thread.
2018/03/23 17:34:24
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2018/03/23 18:32:19
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There is an element of wandering here please keep on track with the original post and updates.

Licencing is subject to change, as Bandlab have only purchased the intellectual property and code base of Cakewalk Inc. and Not Cakewalk Inc.
2018/03/23 18:54:59
poetnprophet
Hi Bandlab,
 
I follow this thread almost every day, but I can see my requests for VS700 support will just get buried in the BS back/forth speculations.
 
PLEASE CAN WE HAVE FURTHER VS700 SUPPORT!
 
I think I'll just keep posting this request day after day until something happens.
Thanks!
Dave
2018/03/23 19:04:51
Wookiee
poetnprophet
Hi Bandlab,
 
I follow this thread almost every day, but I can see my requests for VS700 support will just get buried in the BS back/forth speculations.
 
PLEASE CAN WE HAVE FURTHER VS700 SUPPORT!
 
I think I'll just keep posting this request day after day until something happens.
Thanks!
Dave


The VS700 was never a Cakewalk designed or Manufactured product it was made and supported by Roland, they just used the Cakewalk name badge when they owned Cakewalk, one could almost be tempted to say they exploited the name, but probably not wise to do so.  Persistently asking here will in all seriousness get you no where talk to the company that originated it Roland Corporation.   Further post on this product may be subject to deletion for being off topic. 
2018/03/23 19:39:44
Zo
So if the vs 700 is a taboo , then can we expect a dedicated surface for sonar ? Or deeper integration with avod artist serie for exemple ?
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