BTW... I thought I should point out that I didn't say that soom is all messed up, I said that it's still as messed up as it was in X3c... and it is!
 

Hi Keni
I followed Your report :
1) choose a track with more than one lane and hide them
2) use z-click-drag to highlight and select an area
 
Expected Result:
 
Area selected instantly expands to fill the screen
 
Actual results:
 
Time range expands correctly but the track height stops at the same max size as a lane does...
 
Here is a video of my result http://www.screencast.com/t/ouBmh0q8t6dd
Hopefully I understood you correctly . 
All the best
Jan

jps
Hi Keni
I followed Your report :
1) choose a track with more than one lane and hide them
2) use z-click-drag to highlight and select an area

Expected Result:

Area selected instantly expands to fill the screen

Actual results:

Time range expands correctly but the track height stops at the same max size as a lane does...
 
Here is a video of my result http://www.screencast.com/t/ouBmh0q8t6dd
Hopefully I understood you correctly . 
All the best
Jan

Thanks Jan...

Yes, you did the right process... Why it works correctly for you I don't know...

I'll explore more details to see if there is some other element affecting it...

I'm not prepared to make an excellent video as you did... I wish I could...

But when you executed the zoom, the result is what I want /expect but don't get here. When the is more than one lane on a track the zoom behaves as do zoom on Lanes...

Do you have auto zoom on/off? It's always off here... Maybe that's another element? I will try that... Ugh... That'll be nasty if I have yo leave auto zoom on in order to get zoom to perform correctly... I'm very uncomfortable with auto zoom...

Thanks for digging into this with me... This issue first turned up with X3c here...

Keni

Nope...
 
I just tried it again with auto zoom on/off and it behaves incorrectly either way...
 
But during this set of tests I found that it is behaving incorrectly in this piece even when there is only one lane so I'm guessing that there is another factor...
 
Yes... that is definite... I just started a fresh project and recorded some blank data... Two tracks. One that I allowed a few loops and another with loop off
 
Both are zooming correctly...
 
So what factors do you think might be affecting it in so many of my pieces? Envelops? Certain plugins on other tracks?
 
I'm exploring this right now and stumbled on getting it to work after deleating all other tracks and adding new empty tracks.... I will go deeper but I have work I must do right now.... clients...
 
thanks again... I hope I can narrow down the issue more later today...
 
Keni
 

Keni

jps
Hi Keni
I followed Your report :
1) choose a track with more than one lane and hide them
2) use z-click-drag to highlight and select an area

Expected Result:

Area selected instantly expands to fill the screen

Actual results:

Time range expands correctly but the track height stops at the same max size as a lane does...
 
Here is a video of my result http://www.screencast.com/t/ouBmh0q8t6dd
Hopefully I understood you correctly . 
All the best
Jan

Thanks Jan...

Yes, you did the right process... Why it works correctly for you I don't know...

I'll explore more details to see if there is some other element affecting it...

I'm not prepared to make an excellent video as you did... I wish I could...

But when you executed the zoom, the result is what I want /expect but don't get here. When the is more than one lane on a track the zoom behaves as do zoom on Lanes...

Do you have auto zoom on/off? It's always off here... Maybe that's another element? I will try that... Ugh... That'll be nasty if I have yo leave auto zoom on in order to get zoom to perform correctly... I'm very uncomfortable with auto zoom...

Thanks for digging into this with me... This issue first turned up with X3c here...

Keni

Auto zoom was off when I did this video .
All the best
Jan

During testing I found this:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Specific-Zoom-Drag-Issue-m2955368.aspx
 
I put it in a separate thread as I want it to remain specific (appears different to what is being reported here).
 
Cheers...

Ha!
 
I couldn't quite give up yet and found it has changed it's behavior after removal of various vsti's/tracks tho not the same one removed clears the issue...
 
I'm using a project that has:
Session Drummer 3
VSampler 32 VSTi
Rapture
True Piano
one midi track feeding external hardware and an audio track where the external audio has been recorded...
 
I ma also using Amplitube 3 Free on an adio track
 
My first removal was Amplitube...
Nothing changed
 
Next I removed my most likely suspect the VSampler
Nothing Changed...
 
Nothing changed until I removed them all, then zoom worked correctly even if I added additional audio tracks...
 
Next I reloaded the song and started the same process in the reverse order and after removing VSampler the behavior corrected itself...
 
So I will investigate further, but there is something going on here for sure...
 
Keni
 

Interesting.
 
You should run through the process 3/4 times, make sure it is repeatable and predictable, then it's up to Cakewalk

Hmmm
 
I just added all the same vsti's back into the piece and zoom is still working correctly. I've used all PC/Cakewalk plugins except for two being Amplitube3 Free and one called SpinnerLE and I've added them as well...
 
Still the zoom works correctly... So why does it not when I first load this file (or my others)? Maybe an envelope somewhere? I'm running out of ideas...
 
More investigation as time permits... Clients should be here any minute...
 
Keni
 

Bristol_Jonesey
Interesting.
 
You should run through the process 3/4 times, make sure it is repeatable and predictable, then it's up to Cakewalk

Hi Jonesey...
 
I'm trying but I can't seem to isolate the culprit...
 
Using one of a few songs exhibing this, I have stripped it down until it works and the final piece that changed the behavior was different each time... I even added back all the plugins continually testing and it never reverts to the bad behavior...
 
I have more than enough memory and CPU power here with dual Xeon Quads and 16GB RAM
 
I'm a bit perplexed... I suspected a plugin especially the two 32bit plugins, but it only happens with the original project and not when I add the plugins back... the only thing left is the data?????
 
I don't know what else might be causing this but it sure is strange...
 
keni