• SONAR
  • Can I "split" a VST's output and route it to one or two separate audio tracks? (p.2)
2011/01/09 23:35:36
ba_midi
Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
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You can route a virtual instrument to as many audio tracks as you want. But if you want to print the audio you have to freeze (or bounce) the track.

Or use one of the methods I mention.  I'm pretty sure it's more than doable as long as he avoids feedback loops.




2011/01/09 23:38:54
Jonbouy

For now I want to do it with one VST stereo output, but eventually I will want to use multiple-outs for those VSTs that support more than one.


You can record live audio from a keyboard with a single out using 'Live Input Bounce' (or at least could in 8.5) if X1 still has it available.

I'm not clear if that is what you are trying to do though.

It is also possible to redirect midi within Sonar using a Virtual Midi cable (LoopB1 is available now as a 32 or 64 bit solution) in order to record and re-route several different midi channels simultaneously through different Synths with output from MFX applied and recorded in real-time if wanted.

I've submitted a formal feature request for this functionality to be integrated ITB.

It doesn't hurt to submit your own specific request too, whether it makes any difference or not though is anybody's guess.

Here's B Rocks definitive work on Virtual Midi routing if any of this floats yer boat.

http://forum.cakewalk.com...67&mpage=1#1573767

I use it very often.
2011/01/09 23:45:48
Positively Charged
Thanks guys.  I'm still digesting what you all said.
2011/01/10 17:53:50
UnderTow
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nprime


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Sorry.  An FX doesn't usually generate sound on its own, so I was referring to a VST Instrument.  I want to capture the instrument's audio to a track while the project is recording.


That you cannot do without using routing external to Sonar.

Really?

"And Cubase scores!" 

Okay, just having some fun with ya.  But yes, I was able to do it Saturday in Cubase without doing any external routing.
This is a long standing request of mine: Allow the routing of a track, instrument or bus to the input of a track. Every other DAW I am familiar with allows this. This is a sorely lacking feature in Sonar.

UnderTow

2013/10/05 01:42:19
2:43AM
Did they add this feature to X3?
2013/10/05 02:14:34
brundlefly
No, but recording a soft synth in real time can be done within SONAR:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1934302
2013/10/05 02:27:20
sharke
brundlefly
No, but recording a soft synth in real time can be done within SONAR:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1934302




The problem with that workaround is that you cannot access any GUI elements while the bounce is going on. While this may not present a problem for some people, there are times when the 'performance' includes twiddling with GUI elements that cannot be mapped to a controller. 
 
I too had hoped for the ability to record a synth's output live in X3, but alas I guess they didn't feel it was important enough to implement. 
2013/10/05 02:42:20
swamptooth
Positively Charged

That you cannot do without using routing external to Sonar.

Really?

"And Cubase scores!" 




lol... AND reason AND reaper AND ableton live... oh, yeah, pro tools... ummm... does logic do it too? 
 
2013/10/05 03:27:33
Sanderxpander
Why couldn't you just freeze and take the wave file you get, then unfreeze if necessary?
2013/10/05 10:33:54
SuperG
If those other DAW's allow routing a track's output to another track, I can't help but wonder just how it is they avoid feedback loops...
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