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2011/02/19 12:20:02
Eotm
The PCM series was a cut-down of these units (less dense than the L series)

If you mean the PCM96 rather than the earlier PCMnn boxes, I wouldn't say it's cut down. It's a progression and refinement of Lex's reverb technology. And it can go very dense if you want it to.

2011/02/20 21:25:42
Kroneborge
Hmm, maybe I will check out that Relab LX480, later.   Although to be honest, my LXP is sounding great, and I really don't need anything else at this time, except to fulfill gear lust.

Did you make a decision Mike?
2013/09/11 09:33:36
didap
Eotm: you wrote:
 I don't know if it's documented publicly, but the algorithms are exactly the same in both, and they're the same as in the PCM96 hardware box. This is according to the guy who designed them. The LXP just gives you fewer algorithms and fewer parameters to tweak in those algorithms, while the PCM lets you adjust every parameter.  Sound-wise, the LXP sounds exactly like the PCM given the same plugin parameters.
 
Do you know also something about the quality of the MPX native reverb plugin from Lexicon?
It costs almost nothing, f.e. here you can get it for $65 and LXP for just $ 130!
2013/09/11 09:55:21
robert_e_bone
Forgive me, Mike (mike_mccue) - are you still using X1B, rather than X1D?
 
Just wondering why you did not install through the D upgrade, as those are maintenance updates that I found to be quite stable (x1d).
 
Bob Bone
2013/09/11 10:01:52
scook
The thread is 2 years old
2013/09/11 10:34:40
didap
Scook, does that mean that a subscription on a thread has ended and I cannot expect any response? Can I see that somewhere?
The thread looks still to be open.
 
But I posted also a new item about this to be more sure to get hopefully some response.
2013/09/11 10:40:41
The Maillard Reaction
 
Hi Eotm,
 I went a step further and bought the Exponential Audio Phoenix Reverb and R2 from the person responsible for coding all the reverbs in the Lexicon hardware and software.
 
 It works great and the customer service is the best I have ever seen.
 
 
 best regards,
mike 
 
 
didap
Eotm: you wrote:
 I don't know if it's documented publicly, but the algorithms are exactly the same in both, and they're the same as in the PCM96 hardware box. This is according to the guy who designed them. The LXP just gives you fewer algorithms and fewer parameters to tweak in those algorithms, while the PCM lets you adjust every parameter.  Sound-wise, the LXP sounds exactly like the PCM given the same plugin parameters.
 
Do you know also something about the quality of the MPX native reverb plugin from Lexicon?
It costs almost nothing, f.e. here you can get it for $65 and LXP for just $ 130!




2013/09/11 10:48:29
scook
didap
Scook, does that mean that a subscription on a thread has ended and I cannot expect any response? Can I see that somewhere?
The thread looks still to be open.
 
But I posted also a new item about this to be more sure to get hopefully some response.


No threads don't expire. Reviving old threads does cause some confusion though. My response was to the poster immediately above mine. Some people do not realize how old a thread is and respond as if all the posts are recent.
2013/09/11 10:58:15
The Maillard Reaction
Hi Bob,
 I installed D and then Extended but I finally uninstalled SONAR X. I never had any stability problems with it unless I purposely made it crash just to see what happened.
 
 I consider the SONAR X series to be a de-evolution of a DAW environment and I consider most of the Pro Channel stuff cripple ware. I don't see enough pros to put up with the numerous cons.
 
When SONAR X2 came out I estimated that it took a couple steps forward and introduced some deal killers for me and my *I-actually-use-most-of the-application* work flow.
 
 I think it is the biggest P.O.S. that was ever an excuse for a DAW. I went back to SONAR 8.5 Classic Edition and I've been very happy to have made the decision. I mean really happy. It was a great relief to not have to look at that ugly GUI and it's clumsy design.
 
 I ended up buying Pro Tools 9, 10, and 11 as well as Presonus Studio One. I am going to buy the latest Cubase when I think I have the PT shortcuts and keystrokes memorized.
 
 Now that I have discovered the Exponential Audio reverbs I am feeling like I am learning more about reverb than I could have ever imagined thinking about.
 
 Every time I use it I think about the possibility of finding some sort of master class or discussion group dedicated to real in depth thoughts about how to make the best decisions when using it.
 
 Previously I would use a reverb and think that more gave you less and that tweaking just made stuff different and not better.
 
 The results I get when I make subtle adjustments with Phoenix just leave me thinking that I am finally hearing what I was hoping to hear all along and now that I can hear it I want to understand more about the interaction of all the parameters so that I can be fully expressive with it rather than just feel like a bystander trying out different settings.
 
 best regards,
mike
 
 
robert_e_bone
Forgive me, Mike (mike_mccue) - are you still using X1B, rather than X1D?
 
Just wondering why you did not install through the D upgrade, as those are maintenance updates that I found to be quite stable (x1d).
 
Bob Bone




2013/09/11 11:03:33
bapu
mike_mccue
Hi Bob,
 I installed D and then Extended but I finally uninstalled SONAR X. I never had any stability problems with it unless I purposely made it crash just to see what happened.

Well Done.
What are your plans for this year?
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