Today I have been trying to install various IK Multimedia softsynths and fx on my new PC. They appear to have installed and authorized successfully and the softsynths all work as standalones (although they need to be run as admininstrator to avoid a prompt to re-authorize after every launch). But when Sonar scans them it stops at each item with the following message:

The following plug-in caused an error during load...

Inserting any of this plugins within a project immediately crashes Sonar.

Plugins installed so far:

• Miroslav Philharmonik 1.1.2
• SampleTron 1.0.2
• SampleMoog 1.0.2
• Classic Studio Reverbs 1.1.1

These plugins all work on my old setup (same o/s, same Sonar version, same plugin versions).

Sonar Platinum 22.11.0.111 (32-bit)
Windows 7 (64-bit)

You have to run SONAR as administrator in order to use any of those old IK plugins.

msorrels
You have to run SONAR as administrator in order to use any of those old IK plugins.

 
Thanks. I'd forgotten about that.
 
Maybe I should make notes to avoid getting caught out next time.

msorrels
You have to run SONAR as administrator in order to use any of those old IK plugins.

 
Running Sonar as administrator appeared to solve the problem. However, on my old compluter I had Sonar set to run normally, not as administrator, and these plugins all worked.

They changed bitbridge and the plugin manager a while back.  Before then it was hit or miss if the 32-bit IK plugins would work on a 64bit machine.  But after the changes it required SONAR and the plugin manager to run as admin.  There are many, many threads on these old 32-bit IK plugins and their issues.  The specific combination of OS, CPU bitsize, SONAR version, SONAR bitsize, and plugin required to make them work is mostly black magic.  But here today if you are running a current version of 64-bit SONAR on a 64bit machine you have to do the admin thing or these older 32-bit IK plugins will not work.  Other combinations may or may not work, who knows.  Sampletank 3 can read these old libraries and there are modern 64-bit versions of the CSR plugins.  Which may be a better solution.  Running SONAR as admin is almost always a bad, bad idea.

It depends on the OS. These plug-ins w4ere designed to work on XP. Microsoft subsequently secured parts of the registry and IKM did not update their programs to reflect these changes. This is why the programs running these synths must run as administrator.

scook
It depends on the OS. These plug-ins w4ere designed to work on XP. Microsoft subsequently secured parts of the registry and IKM did not update their programs to reflect these changes. This is why the programs running these synths must run as administrator.

 
My previous setup was Windows 7, not XP. My current setup is Window 7 too. I'm using the same versions of everything. The only difference is the hardware.

From memory if you have SampleTank, you can run Tron and Moog from within it, as apposed to stand alone or however they run, you have to install them manually I think (Not having to worry about the 32bit bit) it's what I do with them, you do loose something, it might be the multi';s or something, can't remember. Don't know about Miroslav whether or not it intertwinned with Sampltank, never owned it.
 
As I said this is all from memory, and was a long time ago, may or may not help.

I believe it's not just the registry.  It's also the install location.  I don't put plugins in c:\Program Files, which I think is another reason the IK plugins worked for a while (X3 and early SONAR Platinum).  But there was a specific release of SONAR Platinum (it was early in the Platinum releases) where things stopped working on Windows 7, even though they worked before.
 
Using the old IK libraries in modern Sampletank 3 you lose the plugin specific GUIs.  I'm not sure about anything more, there may have been something else in Miroslav that the specific player did that you can't do with generic Sampletank 3.  I still have them all installed and they will work, if I run SONAR as admin.

Kev999
 
My previous setup was Windows 7, not XP. My current setup is Window 7 too. I'm using the same versions of everything. The only difference is the hardware.

Was this post made about the old Win7 machine? It is possible to run SONAR using the "Hidden" administrator account, Doing this will eliminate the need to explicitly run SONAR as administrator.