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CJaysMusic

The only way you would be getting midi fx and not audio fx when trying to insert an effect is because you are trying to insert them in to a midi track.

He wants to insert effects like EQ. The easiest way is to insert an audio effect on the audio track that is outputting the MIDI data or the instrument track.. A MIDI effect is something like transpose and velocity. You wont find MIDI effects for effects like EQ.
MIDI is just DATA. It has no sound.
 
CJ

I know that's what he wants but he said when he tried to insert effects all he was getting was a "midi plug in option"
That can only happen on a mid track, if he were trying to insert effects on an audio track he would see audio effects, that was my point.
Surely it's impossible to load any softsynth without there being an audio track ?
So if he's seeing only "midi plug in options" he must have both midi and audio tracks but is trying to insert his effects via a midi track.
I know what he wants to do and I'm trying to get him there with minimal confusion.
 
Steve

Well, I don't know if I got confused, but I tried to do just as you described and it seems we're back at the very beginning. Here's what I ticked when I inserted the VST:
 
Then, here's the result. I get a folder and the VST instrument paired with a Midi Track (in this case I added two more). But still, I can't insert any EQ FX and stuff. Screenshot: It's basically the same thing for all three tracks. When I read the posts above, I could tell that CJ was right on my problem. Is there something I missed? There must be something I don't get x)
 
EDIT: In the first pic I forgot to insert a Mother Audio Track (the synth) but when I do so, I can only link an FX to the "Mother track". So the FX is set to all the Midi tracks linked to it, which is not what I want.
 
BTW, thank you to both of you for your time. You are very helpful!

In your first picture you will notice you did not select an audio track to go with the MIDI track. In addition to the MIDI source and folder options, you need to select one of the audio options when inserting a synth. The audio track(s) will host your effects.

scook
In your first picture you will notice you did not select an audio track to go with the MIDI track. In addition to the MIDI source and folder options, you need to select one of the audio options when inserting a synth. The audio track(s) will host your effects.

Oh my bad, now I did so but as mentioned in my "EDIT" post, I can only apply the FXs to the "Mother Track" (I assume it's the audio track, isn't it?). So tehy will be set to all the instruments, which is not what I want. I want an FX for each specific instrument, which are linked to Midi tracks. Sorry for my bad English by the way.

If the VSTi supports multiple outs, you could select one of the "All Synth Audio Ouput" options and assign the instruments to the appropriate track(s).  If not then you would need separate instances of the VSTi for each instrument.

Well after browsing google for many hours, I think there is no way to achieve such a thing in Sonar x2. Everyone just bounce the midi track to an audio tack. Such a shame for Cakewalk because I come from FL Studio (yes hahaha) and back there I could easily link an instrument's channel to a Mixer's track (the equivalent of a bus in Sonar)...

You have it all wrong Alpha.  Audio FX is meant for audio. You can add FX to the output of any synth because its audio. MIDI is data. That is its a protocol with instruction for note on and note off. There is nothing to add audio FX to. 
 
With a GM synth you can adjust reverb and chorus but its done to the audio not the MIDI. For example my Sound Canvas is a GM and GS sound module. With the GM Studioware Panel that comes with Sonar X2 one can send MIDI to the SC and manipulate reverb and chorus. But this is a special case that works with GM sound modules only.
 
FL Studio works the same way in that its applying FX to the audio not the MIDI. 
 
Nor do you need to bounce the audio. Sonar is a nondestructive DAW and will apply the FX in real time. The only reason to bounce is to make the FX permanent.  

John
You have it all wrong Alpha.  Audio FX is meant for audio. You can add FX to the output of any synth because its audio. MIDI is data. That is its a protocol with instruction for note on and note off. There is nothing to add audio FX to. 
 
With a GM synth you can adjust reverb and chorus but its done to the audio not the MIDI. For example my Sound Canvas is a GM and GS sound module. With the GM Studioware Panel that comes with Sonar X2 one can send MIDI to the SC and manipulate reverb and chorus. But this is a special case that works with GM sound modules only.
 
FL Studio works the same way in that its applying FX to the audio not the MIDI. 
 
Nor do you need to bounce the audio. Sonar is a nondestructive DAW and will apply the FX in real time. The only reason to bounce is to make the FX permanent.  

Well I should have used the right words.
 
Here's the big picture: I have a multi-channel VSTi (Edirol Orchestral, for example). There are many instruments (channels) in the VST, which can be linked to a midi track in order to use them. Problem is: when comes the part that I want to add an FX (EQ) to one of these instruments, I just can't because I can't apply an FX to a midi channel. The only option would be to apply it to the synth track, but the FX would be applied to ALL the other instruments (channels) within the synth. However, I only want the FX to be applied to a specific instrument, which is what I'm searching for.

Alpha now we're getting somewhere. Most multi channel synths allow multiple audio tracks. I don't know anything about the Edirol Orchestral synth but if you open it via the browser you will get a dialog that you can set to all audio outputs. This will give you all the audio outs the synth supports. Now the issue is how you route a MIDI channel to a specific audio out.  This should be in your help file or manual. But if it has more then one audio then an instrument will be able to out to a specific  one. That way you can add the FX you want to that audio only.
 
BTW you will need to get rid of the Simple Instrument tracks and use the normal MIDI and audio tracks. I just checked on the Roland site and it does have multiple outs. So you are in business. 

I imagine it works just like TTS-1. There is a system button that has an option button or tab that allows assignment of the instrument tracks to different audio outs. In this post above was the discussion of how to setup the plug-in for multiple audio tracks. So there are two steps:
insert the plug-in with multiple audio outs and then
open the plug-in to assign the instruments in the plug-in to the outputs.