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2013/07/02 00:30:12
chuckebaby
benjaminfrog
No showstoppers. 5 bugs. 4 reports. Tons of crashes. Tons of crash report submissions.


if you'd like, you can list your bugs so others can try them so we can possibly cross reference them.
it might be nice also for you to know as well.
what might be a bug on your machine ,it might not on someone elses.
and that might yield some results that cake might find interesting because I know ive had an issue before and posted it but it was hard for others to repro it.
 
this was helpful to me because I knew either A- I was missing something, or B- this bug has a make up of my systems configuration= RAM, processor, soundcard, exc.
 
I was able to post "with anyone using a focusrite usb safire 6 and an i7 can you try this"
and low and behold that was it.
2013/07/02 04:26:03
Bristol_Jonesey
No showstoppers here.
 
Some minor annoyances, nearly all related to graphics/display problems, especially when switching screensets
2013/07/02 04:29:11
soens
My most recent "bug" was the "Sample xxx.xxx not found." window was hiding behind the main Sonar window.
 
I did not know it was there so I kept closing Sonar which kept generating a bug report that wanted to be sent to Cakewalk.
 
I thought the "bug" was Sonar not opening properly.
 
The "bug" was actually the main window hiding the warning window.
 
All warning windows should open over the main window so they can be seen.
 
I did not send a bug report but the auto bug reporter sent one when I forced Sonar to close.
 
(Sometimes the biggest "bug" is the one with the "mouse" in his hand!)
2013/07/02 04:42:09
markyzno
OMF imports, crashes Sonar X2a....
 
Bug report sent, Sonar emailed me and are investigating
2013/07/02 04:51:36
Pragi
No bugs here,
uuuupppssss, you´re not asking for bedbugs,or?
 
2013/07/02 05:39:28
icontakt
No showstoppers. Five bugs (or half-baked features?)...
 
1. Instrument tracks play no sounds when their Solo buttons are grouped. Why? (half-baked?)
http://forum.cakewalk.com...uped-Why-m2741593.aspx
Ticket status: Submitted to Development
 
2. X2a - Clone MIDI tracks doesn't seem to work (Essential version only)
http://forum.cakewalk.com...onfirmed-m2746358.aspx
Bug confirmed by Dan at Cakewalk.
 
3. "Snap to Triplet value" in Snap Module (the grid lines don't follow triplets in Inline PRV....half-baked?)
http://forum.cakewalk.com...p-Module-m2798830.aspx
Ticket status: Under Investigation
 
4. Mouse wheel zoom stops working
http://forum.cakewalk.com...-working-m2806436.aspx
Bug confirmed by Dan at Cakewalk.
 
5. Why doesn't nudge work in PRV when only the clip position is locked? (Changed my mind and recently submitted a problem reporter)
http://forum.cakewalk.com...s-locked-m2825666.aspx
Ticket status: Status Changed
 
Still, I love X2a :)
2013/07/02 05:41:33
Danny Danzi
Not sure if I filled out any reports in X2. Maybe a few when I could. My crashes were from Kontakt and teleport server in x64. The Kontakt issues magically stopped as of 2 months ago but x64 is still not quite right. I'm not sure these are bugs...but these are my issues.
 
1. Template run in X2 (x86) at 32 or 64 buffers via ASIO will have latency in Sonar X2 x64. The same exact template....and it has latency. Gotta be bitbridge.
 
2. Take lanes drive me nuts. Same issues everyone else has with them.
 
3. V-Vocal ghosted clips after bounce to clip. Sometimes they auto-mute the original and the VV clip is on top, other times the auto-mute is on top of the VV clip yet it still plays the VV clip. Add this sort of thing to take lanes where you use the K key to mute clips if necessary and you are in for a nightmare with ghost clips playing even when muted.
 
4. Sometimes Console emulator speeds up to double speed when inserted and put into post mode.
 
5. Paste doesn't always paste clips where I want them. They either say they pasted and I can't find them, or they end up 8 minutes deep into the track on the wrong track.
 
6. The snap to grid is horrible for me unless I just don't know how to use it. Sometimes it won't even snap for me even when it's on. I have to mess with it in order for it to kick in correctly.
 
7. Right click and drag to lasso drives me nuts. Not a bug, just a nuisance because I prefer left click and drag. This really sucks when doing midi. I drop notes all over like a bird dropping on a black car thinking it's water. 
 
8. Plugin manager is weird. Sometimes it shows my custom plugs for the fx bin but won't show the right plugs in the side bar menu.
 
9. I really hate HATE HATE our audio engine compared to our DAW competition. In a big project with low buffers (32 or 64 buffers) it dies on me every time I stop playback during a recording. 3 competitors DAWS do not do this at the same buffer settings.
 
10. I'm astonished we don't have colors back for X2. I made up my mind if they didn't come back for X2, there would not be another X for me. Sorry, that's a major peeve of mine.
 
11. Midi notes literally move by themselves at times. It's the weirdest thing. I can't make it happen, it just does it whenever it wants. So here I am with a client tonight....I ran Sonar on the same project from 6:30 pm until 3 am. Not a single crash or problem. But we recorded drums using V-Drums tonight. As we were editing and quantizing the midi notes, we literally saw the entire grid of notes drift by themselves. I wasn't even touching my mouse. I'm not talking a major move...I'm talking an increment...but enough to where the client saw it too. I've seen this several times and have noticed that after I quantize a project perfectly and save/close it, the next day I come back, I'll need to quantize a few more notes. I didn't miss them....I'm a machine, trust me. They moved on their own like they have been doing for me. Now I know what causes that.
 
No show stoppers for me, but some things that are annoying enough for me to see what else is out there. Crashes are just about 0 so that's a good thing, but the same can be said for the other DAW software I use. To this day I've not crashed 2 of them while 1 has only crashed one time. I notice I have to be very careful with Sonar. Like...make sure I stop playback...don't drop in synths while audio is playing...don't do this, don't do that. I'm walking on eggshells and have always felt this way since I began using Cakewalk and had to learn how to configure my machine correctly for it.
 
I don't feel that with other DAWs at all. I beat them, they work and don't crash for how *I* use them. If I beat on Sonar like that, rest assured it will have a hissy fit. As long as I respect it and treat it with kid gloves, it will work for weeks or months without a crash. It's a great DAW...it just needs a little work and I'd totally happy. Right now I'm content. But I honestly don't believe another X is in the works for me at this point. We'll see.
 
-Danny
2013/07/02 07:42:36
spacey
Wouldn't it be nice if it were only bugs that were the issue?
 
Bug reports are submitted by the program. If the computer isn't
connected to the internet it won't be submitted. Then if you contact
support you're spending time locating files to send to them. (in my case the files they requested were not found)
So I wound up spending time messing with BS rather than recording.
And whatever the bug was stopped that project dead in the water.
 
Other issues that prevent one from recording is spending time trouble shooting due to
chip sets, video cards, drivers and who knows what all. 
 
Is that Cakes fault? NO. Is a problem that for whatever reason that the program just
won't perform on "that" computer? Yes.
Is it right for a person to have a computer that surpasses the minimum requirements
that is listed for a computer to run the program and it won't? NO.
 
Do users get tired of be a computer geek spending all their time chasing their tail because
of reasons and excuses that they didn't expect when they dove in? YES.
 
Sure- experienced users know that there are a ton of issues that one has to deal with.
Many users didn't realize that when they paid that much money they weren't going to be sitting
down and just learn how to work the program...it's then they learn that if they didn't want
to be a troubleshooting, forum member, answer seeking repair tech that they sure may have been
better off saving that money because the real minimum requirements to use this software and computers are not listed.
 
Maybe the day will come when a person can buy a computer, the software to record and sit down, learn how to use it and record. That day is not here. There are to many excuses and reasons that will keep most users to busy doing other things than recording UNLESS they got lucky with the right version and the right PC setup. ( I did for a short time with 8.5) My computer being powerful enough to process all that I could throw at it was the only issue.
 
It would be nice if bugs were the only major issue that derailed the recording experience, but it's not.
 
 
 
 
 
 
2013/07/02 07:45:23
mattplaysguitar
Sometimes Concrete Limiter and PC2A disappear and the project has to be re-loaded. Appears to be random. Can't repeat. Bug report submitted but as I can't re-produce it, Cake said they can't do a lot about it (fair enough).
 
To give a little confidence to people, I submitted this report maybe a few months ago and they sent me an email 2 weeks ago asking if I had noticed any further information that could assist them in troubleshooting the issue (I have not yet). So as of two weeks ago, they were certainly looking at bug reports and working to fix them. If that's for X2b or X3, who knows, but it certainly tells us that they are working on SOMETHING.
 
I work primarily on X1 for current projects (X2 for all new projects) still but will be moving to X2 exclusively in about 2 weeks. I haven't really used X2 enough or mixed seriously on it yet. I'm really hoping it plays nice, but I'm a little scared. Hopefully if I just try to stick with Cake plugs only I'll be safe. Though I do need my Pultec and my RVerb...
 
Bugs: 1
Reports: 1
2013/07/02 07:56:58
joel77
No issues here.
 
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