John


Sorry you feel that way. I didn't see any mandate on this forum that specified anyone posting here had to have the program.

I can see if what I say is wrong or is giving people incorrect information that one might question how well a person is familiar with the program but you aren't saying that. You aren't correcting anything all you are doing is questioning me for not being in the X1 club as yet.

Please correct my postings. Find where I am wrong but don't attack me for not having the program.   

I'm not attacking you, John.   I'm sorry if you think I am.
But I'm also not going to engage in a p*ssing contest.  I made my statement, and I'll let it stand as is.

Time for bed, as well, so goodnight.

Well.  This is a rarity - a thread I have to un-subscribe from.

The OP had an agenda.  It wasn't necessarily an unworthy one.  He wanted to do what he could as a Cakewalk fanboy to counteract the massive amount of negative reaction to the release of X1.

But too much of this thread has consisted of the OP telling people they shouldn't behave or think how they have and do.   Phrases akin to "You couldn't possibly think that" proliferate in his responses because his whole point has been to tell everyone they're wrong for behaving or thinking as they do.

And he's insisted on everyone responding only according to his own parameters.  When some people have said they want to think of the lack of a "Save" button as a lack of a feature, he's countered with the decree that this isn't his definition of a program feature.  As if it's insane for anyone else to think that the lack of a Save button refers to a feature.  Who is he to say what other people consider a feature in a program?

There has been some good input on this thread, but the premise of the thread is rather pointless.  It's mostly a series of counter statements from the OP telling everyone who doesn't agree with the OP's opinion that they're either stupid or trying to undermine Cakewalk.

"...don't attack me for not having the program..."

Why not?  I think we're all rather weary of all these pontifications from someone who really doesn't know what the frick he's talking about since he hasn't been in the driver's seat like the rest of us.

For such a fanboy, it seems like he could scrape up the dough for the upgrade so he could shut the heck up and dig in to figuring out the program he's defending before the fact of actually having tried it.

And so on.

Randy B.

If I don't know what I am talking about show me Randy. Show one sentence I have posted on this thread that in incorrect about X1.

At least John has taken the time to research X1 and he is at least reading the manual, which is more than some here can claim.  Did John have an agenda when starting this thread?  Of course he did.  But I don't give a flaming rat's ass about it, either!  Because agenda or not, this thread can be useful.

I want to keep coming back to this thread to see what people are saying and to see if I can do my own testing and confirmation and thereby learn how to use Sonar.  But it won't be useful until we get ourselves and our emotions under control.  The bickering is getting in the way.

So this is my "plea" to all of you:

This thread should be reserved for the work at hand. 

Arguments, bickering, and accusations of less-than-admirable motives should be taken to a different thread.  Thank you.

Global windows views were usefull in 8.5 now have to import them from open file to update screenshot? Long way round!

John - Billy makes some good points.  My time with X1 has been split between transitioning to a 64bit machine and mixing.  I love the new interface because the way it deals with windows is for me superior to the old way of window management.  There are other major workflow enhancements too - like I love that the track inspector can always be off to the side and full height (not locked into the old Track View)

Last night I started to record some guitar (first time recording with X1).  I'm starting to feel the frustration others have felt.  For example, I can't mute clips with one button any more - I have to deal with a menu -> slower.  It's harder now to select clips.  I'm still not used to the tools yet.  The function of the tools seems to be buggy - sometimes they loose function.  I cloned a track and instead of copying the ProChannel settings, it produced some wierd EQ curve I never saw before - a definite bug. 

So now that I'm working in the "recording cockpit" I'm getting some different flavors and feelings of X1.  I will never go back to 8.5.3 - as I'm still very excited about the new interface, but I don't have any clients so I can tolerate the bugs, slowness and frustration that others simply can't.

If you want to upgrade ASAP - you should do it and report your findings - that would be a very interesting read as a follow-up to this thread.

Geno

guitartrek

For example, I can't mute clips with one button any more - I have to deal with a menu -> slower.


Geno

Geno, you can mute clips by hitting the letter K.  In previous versions it was the letter Q.  This is just one more example of the myriad of small, inexplicable changes that were made to X1.  Keyboard shortcuts can be found in the help menu.  So much angst could have been spared if CW would have simply explained that the operating system had been radically changed in the first place.  And, then, a map of those changes might have saved a lot of grief.  I would suggest that if CW ever makes such a radical change in the future, they provide a demo program first so that users can test drive the product before sinking their money into the program.  So far, changing the way we access certain functions has been the biggest pain, but better stability with Windows 7 and 64 bits has been the biggest gain.
Stay thirsty, my friends,
Lynn

These free (for now) vids are really outstanding and clear up so much that's misunderstood about X1's perceived lack of previously included features. Highly recommend.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2179736

HumbleNoise


These free (for now) vids are really outstanding and clear up so much that's misunderstood about X1's perceived lack of previously included features. Highly recommend.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2179736

Hehe, anything that wants my name and/or email address isn't really free in the long run ;)