craigb
That could be mean to the mirror...

I hear 'dat!

I keep away from mirrors for all the obvious reasons.

bapu
I keep away from mirrors for all the obvious reasons.

 
You and me bofe!

I find I'm prettier, sexier and skinnier that way.

Music is no different than any other discipline. Except perhaps, like all the "arts", susceptible to subjective appreciation in the discernment of the unschooled and untrained layity. And, at times, (dear lawd) even schooled and trained peers. Go figure.

But, as with any discipline, there are definite hierarchical levels of pedagogy to be both accomplished and mastered. Given that, it is quite possible, in most circumstances, to discern ones level of "musicianship" and virtuosity. In short...either you got it...or you ain't. Amazing expertise and total suckatude being the two extremes of the scale. Like it or not...them's the facts, Jack.

Try going ahead and paying your plumber for fixing a leaky faucet by creating a spewing fountain of cascading water emanating from said faucet because "it satisfies his inner groove". And calling him a "genius" to boot.

 
I see 'Orphaned' has been banned.
 
Probably more for THIS POST rather than for THIS ONE.
 
Although the official line for the ban is because he/she "is yet another alt for the same person whose posts all have the common theme of shilling for Studio One and Reaper, hatred of SONAR, and contempt for the community".
 
Maybe something a few of us need to be aware of, including one former Forum Host:  "I try to be tolerant but multiple alts are against the terms of service. I've banned most of them and this will be no different."
 
 
 
Edit: mistaken identity corrected... thanks Craig.
 
 
 
 

Differences between arts and trades, and obvious outlying extremes aside, the fact that the artist plummer is doing commission work for somebody else is an important distinction.  Doing water art for someone else would *possibly* involve some up front expectation about the form of the result.  Unless the customer is an unquestioning patron.
 
OTOH, if the plummer were to create a fountain for his own enjoyment, having someone else "appreciate" his masterpiece would be optional - if it was truly created for his own pleasure.
 
I think in most cases, certainly not all, artists strive for greater mastery of their medium as they mature as artists.  This will certainly gain greater levels of satisfaction internally and greater appreciation externally.
 
 

jamesg1213
 
I'd add Steely Dan to that. Possibly the most sophisticated 'pop' music you're ever likely to hear (apart from 10cc).
 
Then there's Burt Bacharach and Nelson Riddle of course.

Agreed. Also adding Henry Mancini to that ... I was just listening to some of the different Pink Panther themes for various movies of his, and let me tell you ... that jazzy stuff was hip as heck ... but we don't listen to it because some of it was in a movie, not in a CD ... and yeah ... there was some really good stuff worth playing and enjoying and then some ... and he always had guitar moments on his music!

SteveStrummerUK
 
I see the OP has been banned.
 
 

Not the OP (BobF), but the troll Orphaned at Birth.

It's not the good old days for anyone anymore.