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This forum is kind of sad
Do a search on video - Returns nothing. do a search on just about anything - returns nothing.
Hate to say it guys, but I do not have day to read every single item. What I do get from reading is that I am not the only one that feels that this product is WAY less functional then advertised. I will not be renewing my subscription that is for sure. Sorry to say that I guess for PC based audio tasks, I will use Ableton. At least it is stable and when you go looking for some support, you can find it.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/03/27 05:36:50
So you're going to dump Sonar because the forum search function is lame? Perhaps I misunderstood your post, but that's how it sounds to me. Have you tried the help docs or google? Or perhaps even consider asking a question yourself? There's lots of people here who are happy to assist you in becoming proficient with Sonar.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/26 21:24:03
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☄ Helpfulby kevinwal 2016/03/26 21:41:20
Google: site:forum.cakewalk.com video 28,200 returns ...that should keep you busy for a while. You might want to make the search terms more specific. 
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/26 21:26:44
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Somebody get the bug spray. The pests are back.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/26 21:38:37
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2016/03/28 09:53:19
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Hate to say it guys, but I do not have day to read every single item. This forum states that its mission is: "Discussion focused on the use of SONAR Producer, Studio, Essential and Base." That is not the same thing as support. Granted, people are sometimes spoiled because there is a ton of peer-to-peer support, so they think that's what this forum is about. But its goal is to help people get the most out of SONAR, hence people are encouraged to ask questions so that others may contribute answers. If you want to search the forums, use the technique I described above. If you need support, contact Cakewalk. Free support is part of your membership. If you don't avail yourself of it, it's not fair to say there's no support. So far you've posted one question, which was answered, and one complaint which is only valid because you don't know how to use search engines, and the people here are more than glad to help. Nor have you mentioned any issues you've experienced, aside from one thread about wanting to be able to mark off a section of an extremely lengthy live recording and save out just that aspect, which you can indeed do in several ways. For example another option is to isolate the clips you want to save, then drag and drop into a folder via the browser. What I do get from reading is that I am not the only one that feels that this product is WAY less functional then advertised. Functionality should be judged on whether a product fulfills one's particular needs, not from taking forum posts at face value which may or may not be relevant to what you do. Finally, if you find an Ableton Live forum, let me know. I presume that like Propellerheads, they gave up on having a forum that's open to all because of people who contribute nothing, and therefore drag down the experience of those people who use a forum for its intended and stated purpose.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
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☄ Helpfulby olemon 2016/03/27 18:54:43
Just a quick note for those who find the Cakewalk Search to be less than ideal. The best way to search the Forum seems to be to use Google and include the following modifier "site: http://forum.cakewalk.com" (remove quotes) along with your search term. It may also be that the item you are looking for is at https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/ which can also be searched using Google. Cheers.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/26 21:47:37
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I set this up in my standard ahk script file:
;search Cakewalk site
!S::
Send, site:forum.cakewalk.com
Return
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/26 22:02:17
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duselton
...do a search on just about anything - returns nothing...
It's something that's hardly unique to this forum. Disfunctional search engines are commonplace on the web. Why pick on this one?
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/26 22:05:14
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Kev999
duselton
...do a search on just about anything - returns nothing...
It's something that's hardly unique to this forum.
True because frankly, Google does a much better job than the search function that's built into most forum software. At Harmony Central we're just going to skin Google search as Harmony Central's search, pay Google their ransom, and be done with it.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/26 22:11:49
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I found the search to be a little lacking to say the least myself, just mentioned it in another post, done a lot of manual scrolling and searching to find what I could, wish I had read the google thing above before, I am all scrolled and searched out now :(
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 01:48:55
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To be sure, Google is the best way to search the forum.
To be fair, a new user probably will not intuit that the forum software search is lousy until he uses it and finds out for himself. The Google trick has been explained hundreds of times on this forum, and will probably need to be explained again. A sticky at the top of the forum on how to search using Google might help a little, but who would expect to need to look at the sticky when the forum seems to have a built in search function.
I am not surprised that I am not the only software user that gets annoyed when a feature does not work as it is apparently intended? Getting annoyed at annoyed users of broken software is pretty much the same kind of behavior.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 03:47:29
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So you're going to dump Sonar because the forum search function is lame? Perhaps I misunderstood your post, but that's how it sounds to me. Have you tried the help docs or google? Or perhaps even consider asking a question yourself? There's lots of people here who are happy to assist you in becoming proficient with Sonar.
In all fairness, I think it mat be more the case, and indicative of the fact that the OP has had enough of the attitude, the culture, which seems to be pervasive, might I say systemic in the Cakewalk world. Let me explain . . . The forum search feature being broken, and broken for a long time, complained about over and over for a long time, and yet nothing is done about it. Instead 'workarounds' are thrown at the user, never mind that it takes more steps and is an inconvenience to the user. "There you go, you have a workaround, problem solved, no need to worry about that any more" The parallel's, the similarities with how the software, both Sonar and Cakewalks virtual instruments are gob smackingly similar. There are many areas of Sonar which are just plain broken, people have complained about them for years, still complain about them and still nothing is done. In many cases there will be workarounds thrown to the masses (sound familiar?) Lets not forget the virtual instruments, Z3TA2, I'm sure we are all familiar with that story? Rapture Pro, I'm sure no one will forget the state in which that was released?, how long did we have to wait for that to be brought into a condition where it was even remotely useable for a lot of people? 8 to 10 months that's how long, and for something which it was said at the time to have been in development for a long time (years) and still it landed in the state it did, and still today there are those, many who struggle with it, lets not forget our Mac user friends who still struggle. I may be wrong, but I think that is more along the lines of the OP if you read a little into it and not just look on the surface. And yet he is labelled a 'Troll' with comments like " Somebody get the bug spray. The pests are back" never mind the fact that he has been a member since 2004, yeah I am sure that is plausible, he has just been hanging around for the last 12 years waiting for this day to unleash his master plan, waiting all this time developing his 'trolling' skills, sharpening them to precision. Well done people, you should be proud of yourselves, it is because of people like yourselves that these forums enjoy the reputation they do, well done, take a bow. Then there is this poor fellow http://forum.cakewalk.com/Hello-and-Goodbye-m3391128.aspxdon't waste any time, just straight into it, that's the Cakewalk forums way, don't give them a chance, shoot first and ask questions latter, never mind that no self respecting person would bother to return after that, but keep attacking him while he is gone, after all that is the Cakewalk forum way, just ask those on the outside, they know it all to well. Well done people, take another bow, you deserve it !! You know when you think about it, it is really you people who are the 'trolls' you sit there and at the slightest sign of someone turning up with a low post count, or who has just joined, hell . . . after todays effort it doesn't even matter if they have been here for 12 years, and if they don't enter singing the Cakewalk/Sonar mantra, kissing backsides and saying everything is roses, you Cakewalk sock puppets just pounce on them, again it's the Cakewalk forum way, it's a well known thing. It is you people, the sock puppets who are the trolls, worse then those YOU call trolls, far worse. Nothing I have said here is untrue, we both know that, it may be a little hard for you Sock Puppets to stomach, but hey. Take another bow, you all deserve it, just count it as a down payment on the next poor unsuspecting person to foolishly come this way. Well Done!!
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 04:34:47
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I agree that people are pretty quick to dish it out on here, but really if someone posts only a complaint with no possible problem to solve (I hate it, ok bye) I don't think that's very inviting of positive or constructive feedback. That said, it's always an option to not say anything.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 04:35:04
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Thanks for that, I'll be waiting under me bridge.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 04:59:20
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☄ Helpfulby tenfoot 2016/03/27 14:55:22
Orphaned at Birth
kevinwal
So you're going to dump Sonar because the forum search function is lame? Perhaps I misunderstood your post, but that's how it sounds to me. Have you tried the help docs or google? Or perhaps even consider asking a question yourself? There's lots of people here who are happy to assist you in becoming proficient with Sonar.
In all fairness, I think it mat be more the case, and indicative of the fact that the OP has had enough of the attitude, the culture, which seems to be pervasive, might I say systemic in the Cakewalk world. Let me explain . . .
The forum search feature being broken, and broken for a long time, complained about over and over for a long time, and yet nothing is done about it. Instead 'workarounds' are thrown at the user, never mind that it takes more steps and is an inconvenience to the user. "There you go, you have a workaround, problem solved, no need to worry about that any more" The parallel's, the similarities with how the software, both Sonar and Cakewalks virtual instruments are gob smackingly similar. There are many areas of Sonar which are just plain broken, people have complained about them for years, still complain about them and still nothing is done. In many cases there will be workarounds thrown to the masses (sound familiar?) Lets not forget the virtual instruments, Z3TA2, I'm sure we are all familiar with that story? Rapture Pro, I'm sure no one will forget the state in which that was released?, how long did we have to wait for that to be brought into a condition where it was even remotely useable for a lot of people? 8 to 10 months that's how long, and for something which it was said at the time to have been in development for a long time (years) and still it landed in the state it did, and still today there are those, many who struggle with it, lets not forget our Mac user friends who still struggle. I may be wrong, but I think that is more along the lines of the OP if you read a little into it and not just look on the surface.
And yet he is labelled a 'Troll' with comments like "Somebody get the bug spray. The pests are back" never mind the fact that he has been a member since 2004, yeah I am sure that is plausible, he has just been hanging around for the last 12 years waiting for this day to unleash his master plan, waiting all this time developing his 'trolling' skills, sharpening them to precision. Well done people, you should be proud of yourselves, it is because of people like yourselves that these forums enjoy the reputation they do, well done, take a bow.
Then there is this poor fellow http://forum.cakewalk.com/Hello-and-Goodbye-m3391128.aspx
don't waste any time, just straight into it, that's the Cakewalk forums way, don't give them a chance, shoot first and ask questions latter, never mind that no self respecting person would bother to return after that, but keep attacking him while he is gone, after all that is the Cakewalk forum way, just ask those on the outside, they know it all to well. Well done people, take another bow, you deserve it !!
You know when you think about it, it is really you people who are the 'trolls' you sit there and at the slightest sign of someone turning up with a low post count, or who has just joined, hell . . . after todays effort it doesn't even matter if they have been here for 12 years, and if they don't enter singing the Cakewalk/Sonar mantra, kissing backsides and saying everything is roses, you Cakewalk sock puppets just pounce on them, again it's the Cakewalk forum way, it's a well known thing. It is you people, the sock puppets who are the trolls, worse then those YOU call trolls, far worse. Nothing I have said here is untrue, we both know that, it may be a little hard for you Sock Puppets to stomach, but hey.
Take another bow, you all deserve it, just count it as a down payment on the next poor unsuspecting person to foolishly come this way. Well Done!!
Because I read a lot of forums not just the CW ones I know that the above is true in most every one of them. I also know that as a peer to peer forum all we can do is offer our best advice. This maybe a work around. It is offered as a way to get a thing done. That is what this forum is all about helping people get things done. You see it as a weakness. I see it as a strength. One definition of a pro in any endeavor is being able to problem solve given the tools at hand. Most here understand that. If you see fault it is because we are about finding a solution for those seeking one. That is what causes some frustration with drive by posters. We are never given the opportunity to help. We watch as dispiriting comments are made and we take it with some sadness. Because we know from our own experience that it is not that way at all. Some try to offer some wisdom others handle it in their own way by saying something unpleasant. Sometimes they regret that. Still we have a great group offering to help anyone that asks. We are not CW nor are we tech support. Yet some like yourself find reason to be very sarcastic and full of anger at us. Its like giving the shirt off ones back only to be ridiculed because it wont fit you well. We have our limitations. One is not being too happy to be attacked by useless postings that proclaim they're leaving or some such when we didn't know they were ever here. All it really says to me when a poster for the first post does that and also says they have been here for years is they have taken as much as they could from us without ever thinking they might offer something in return. And then leaving a virtual slap in the face for our not posting an answer to a question they never asked. Its easy to point a finger if that is your thing. Its much harder to engage in the work being done here on a daily basis. That would mean you offer a bit of yourself so others may benefit. Finding fault with others is a popular pastime for those that really have no wish to see a better environment thrive. We listen to your posts and all we can do is shake our heads in sadness for the utter waste of them.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 05:18:58
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Way to invalidate your point there in the last sentence :p
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 05:42:00
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Sanderxpander
Way to invalidate your point there in the last sentence :p
Well each to their own I guess.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 10:26:05
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2016/03/27 20:09:03
Orphaned at Birth is yet another alt for the same person whose posts all have the common theme of shilling for Studio One and Reaper, hatred of SONAR, and contempt for the community. At least this alt is honest that he comes from a very dark place.
Just the fact that he thinks the community jumps on anyone who has something negative to say tells you all you need to know. This forum is extremely helpful to anyone having problems. However it is not tolerant of people who contribute nothing, nor should it be.
I had never banned anyone until this guy came along. I try to be tolerant but multiple alts are against the terms of service. I've banned most of them and this will be no different.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 11:22:15
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How disappointing. Thanks for the housekeeping though!
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 14:54:21
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This is the most helpful forum of its kind in existence. But I agree, the search could be better. I find I get better results Googling. But when I do, I find a lot of Sonar posts, which almost always solve the problem. And the responses from members here are as fast and helpful as any site in the world. To pick out one little flaw and conclude that this forum is "sad," is in itself sad.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 15:39:13
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kevinwal
So you're going to dump Sonar because the forum search function is lame? Perhaps I misunderstood your post, but that's how it sounds to me. Have you tried the help docs or google? Or perhaps even consider asking a question yourself? There's lots of people here who are happy to assist you in becoming proficient with Sonar.
In all fairness, I think it mat be more the case, and indicative of the fact that the OP has had enough of the attitude, the culture, which seems to be pervasive, might I say systemic in the Cakewalk world. Let me explain . . .
The forum search feature being broken, and broken for a long time, complained about over and over for a long time, and yet nothing is done about it. Instead 'workarounds' are thrown at the user, never mind that it takes more steps and is an inconvenience to the user. "There you go, you have a workaround, problem solved, no need to worry about that any more" The parallel's, the similarities with how the software, both Sonar and Cakewalks virtual instruments are gob smackingly similar. There are many areas of Sonar which are just plain broken, people have complained about them for years, still complain about them and still nothing is done. In many cases there will be workarounds thrown to the masses (sound familiar?) Lets not forget the virtual instruments, Z3TA2, I'm sure we are all familiar with that story? Rapture Pro, I'm sure no one will forget the state in which that was released?, how long did we have to wait for that to be brought into a condition where it was even remotely useable for a lot of people? 8 to 10 months that's how long, and for something which it was said at the time to have been in development for a long time (years) and still it landed in the state it did, and still today there are those, many who struggle with it, lets not forget our Mac user friends who still struggle. I may be wrong, but I think that is more along the lines of the OP if you read a little into it and not just look on the surface.
And yet he is labelled a 'Troll' with comments like "Somebody get the bug spray. The pests are back" never mind the fact that he has been a member since 2004, yeah I am sure that is plausible, he has just been hanging around for the last 12 years waiting for this day to unleash his master plan, waiting all this time developing his 'trolling' skills, sharpening them to precision. Well done people, you should be proud of yourselves, it is because of people like yourselves that these forums enjoy the reputation they do, well done, take a bow.
Then there is this poor fellow
don't waste any time, just straight into it, that's the Cakewalk forums way, don't give them a chance, shoot first and ask questions latter, never mind that no self respecting person would bother to return after that, but keep attacking him while he is gone, after all that is the Cakewalk forum way, just ask those on the outside, they know it all to well. Well done people, take another bow, you deserve it !!
You know when you think about it, it is really you people who are the 'trolls' you sit there and at the slightest sign of someone turning up with a low post count, or who has just joined, hell . . . after todays effort it doesn't even matter if they have been here for 12 years, and if they don't enter singing the Cakewalk/Sonar mantra, kissing backsides and saying everything is roses, you Cakewalk sock puppets just pounce on them, again it's the Cakewalk forum way, it's a well known thing. It is you people, the sock puppets who are the trolls, worse then those YOU call trolls, far worse. Nothing I have said here is untrue, we both know that, it may be a little hard for you Sock Puppets to stomach, but hey.
Take another bow, you all deserve it, just count it as a down payment on the next poor unsuspecting person to foolishly come this way. Well Done!!
Yes I'm with you on this. Using cakewalk since '98, unfriendly/unhelpful forum with malfunctioning search function. Populated by people whose hobby appears to be visiting and posting on the forum multiple times daily. At least one regular poster here has averaged 6 posts a day for the past 13 years!! No wonder they resent intruders. Lots of posts from 'fan boys', (sycophants), wow, a new blue button!!, and those who condemn criticism whilst paying for product updates that will never be used or understood. It's an exclusive members only clique into which normal people people intrude to ask questions or explore issues, which the members/sycophants seem to resent. It should be made into a private members area, and a proper public forum set up in it's place. I'm gone. It would have been nice to shoot the breeze and generally explore sonar here, but clearly, after more than 15 years that ain't going to happen.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 16:19:56
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/03/27 16:45:23
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It would have been nice to shoot the breeze and generally explore sonar here Don't be shy, a forum is what people make it. If you want conversations that explore SONAR, start some conversations about exploring SONAR and you'll have plenty of responses. The only posts from you other than this one were in a thread you started about about "Style Dials Have Vanished!!", which turned out to be user error. Although I'm glad you got your problem solved, it's not the kind of topic that's going to get the kind of responses you seem to want.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 16:54:02
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/03/27 17:42:33
Is there something in the air? Why all these nasty threads all of a sudden? Maybe the monumentally depressing political party wars are trickling down even to this humble forum?
People: It's spring. It's Easter (take it either way, the renewal of life or the resurrection of Christ). We live in a land of plenty. We spend our time playing with astounding technology, which allows us to do things Bach or Mozart didn't even dream of. Why attack each other? how infantile.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 18:16:08
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if someone posts that they're outta here, or gone for good etc, just please deactivate their user account. i think many of these trolls the last few days have been good ole irvin
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 18:39:04
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Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. Sonar is a professional DAW, and it can be frustrating to learn it on your own. I found the Power Books very helpful. The forum is valuable too, but the existing threads may not always address your specific question or problem.
Granted, the forum search function could be better, but don't abandon the DAW just because of that. Try the Google options that were just discussed as a result of your post, or ask a specific question.
It's up to you, but the people here are very knowledgeable and they will respond if given a fair chance to do so.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2016/03/28 10:13:44
TIP: There is a place called "Search This Forum" that does not work well. However, there is also a search at the very top of the page called "Enter Search Phrase" that works very well. Give it a try and you'll see.
When you enter a search there, go to the bottom of the list and click "View More" and it will give you a page that you can sort by date and other items and get all sorts of forum results.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 19:41:02
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Are Creepy, Orphaned and outback the same person?
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 19:43:15
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jpetersen
Are Creepy, Orphaned and outback the same person?
It appears to be.
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
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jpetersen
Are Creepy, Orphaned and outback the same person?
Another four like that and we've got ourselves a gritty reboot of Snow White.
post edited by John T - 2016/03/27 22:58:49
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Re: This forum is kind of sad
2016/03/27 21:39:44
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Orphaned at Birth
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So you're going to dump Sonar because the forum search function is lame? Perhaps I misunderstood your post, but that's how it sounds to me. Have you tried the help docs or google? Or perhaps even consider asking a question yourself? There's lots of people here who are happy to assist you in becoming proficient with Sonar.
In all fairness, I think it mat be more the case, and indicative of the fact that the OP has had enough of the attitude, the culture, which seems to be pervasive, might I say systemic in the Cakewalk world. Let me explain . . .
[long explanation redacted]
I reacted to a statement that, to me, made little sense. I also acknowledged that my understanding of his statement might not be right. I didn't call him a troll or do any of the things you say I did; rather I suggested that he try googling, or try asking a question, and assured him that people here are willing to help him work through whatever issue he is experiencing. And it's true, many of us are willing to help. If there's any real culture here, it's that.
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