2015/09/25 11:55:20
jamesg1213
Yep, that's how I understand it. Not worried about selling anything really, it would just be nice if people had the CD and the track titles came up if they're playing it using WMP or iTunes.
 
iTunes now 'sees' the titles after I sent the details to Gracenote, so I'll take care of WMP as per Slart's helpful link.
2015/09/25 12:06:56
Danny Danzi
Moshkito
Hi,
 
It's an "unknown album" because WMP is not finding it on the Internet 




Yeah I think we all understand that. What I'm not understanding is if we have text writing CD burners, why don't we see the text for 1.....
 
And 2, what happens at the duplication facility that allows everything to be seen on any player that can read text? Are they just running some type of script that auto-submits material to GN and other places? Or is their text writing really being burned in differently than our supposed "text writing burners" are? I'm really curious about this now. I can't see dupe houses filling out info on the net...but who knows? I've never actually had to deal with one other than sending client materials and I never hear back which is always good news. :)
 
-Danny
2015/09/26 15:08:45
Moshkito
Danny Danzi
Moshkito
Hi,
 
It's an "unknown album" because WMP is not finding it on the Internet 


Yeah I think we all understand that. What I'm not understanding is if we have text writing CD burners, why don't we see the text for 1.....
...

 
I think this might interfere in the copyrights and information stuff, is my impression. I could be incorrect here. One would expect the person "owning" the rights to provide that information, which, as is the case here, is not exactly well known as a process.
 
Danny Danzi 
And 2, what happens at the duplication facility that allows everything to be seen on any player that can read text?
...


I'll have to ask that question to a facility here in Portland, but my guess is that the information on the album corresponds to some sort of commercial entity that keeps track of these things like Allmedia and the other one. But, I really don't know, and will defer to others here.
2015/09/26 20:39:52
slartabartfast
Danny Danzi
 
 
Yeah I think we all understand that. What I'm not understanding is if we have text writing CD burners, why don't we see the text for 1.....
 
And 2, what happens at the duplication facility that allows everything to be seen on any player that can read text? Are they just running some type of script that auto-submits material to GN and other places? Or is their text writing really being burned in differently than our supposed "text writing burners" are? I'm really curious about this now. I can't see dupe houses filling out info on the net...but who knows? I've never actually had to deal with one other than sending client materials and I never hear back which is always good news. :)
 
-Danny




The answer is here, but maybe not clear. To read CD text you need not only a CD drive that is capable of reading CD text, and not all of them necessarily are, but an application that is set up to read CD text. Some freestanding CD players have that software built in, so if you had a CD burner that could write a Red Book CD with track titles as CD text, the expected result would be that you could see it on that external player. But although many computer CD drives can access CD text, many computer CD playing applications do not instruct them to do so or interpret the data that is stored there.
 
The replication house is actually writing the CD text to the pressed CD. From that CD it can be read directly by the CD player, which does not need any internet access since it is not using data from an online database. As far as burning a writable CD with usable CD text on your computer, the issue is again that the burning application you use must be capable of doing so, and you must generally provide the data to it in the form of a cue list or cue file, unless the application automates that process for you. 
 
http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Cue_sheet
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/burn_audio_cds_from_music_files_with_imgburn.cfm
 
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