bladetragic
samson7842
Bruh, I've been saying the same things for years. But, Sonar seems to cater more toward traditional musicians than those of us who use this kind of sampler as the base of our creations. Nevertheless, it's a hole that the bakers should plug if they want to move beyond the perception of Sonar not being up to snuff for serious music/beat making.
Don't get me wrong, I love Sonar. And, I'm hoping this will get addressed soon. Here's my original post about the topic:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Please-Please-Please-Give-Us-A-Pad-Based-Drum-Sample-Player-m3197050.aspx
This is kind of my point.
I'm honestly speaking from the stand point of wanting to see Sonar grow and draw in more people. Since Sonar is at the center of my productions and I have a lot invested in it, I see it as a good thing if you draw in more users b/c that means more revenue for the company. So this is not even so much for my specific needs, but just an observation of a demographic that Cake may be able to draw in a bit more with the addition of a few of the right tools. I really don't see how that could be a bad thing.
There are 3rd party options available for a lot of things that Sonar does. VocalSync, Drum Replacers, Pitch Correction, Synths, compressor plugins, EQs, Live Drum programs...and the list goes on. There are 3rd party options available for ALL of those things, but it hasn't stopped Cakewalk from developing and including tools in these areas, b/c it makes the program stronger, adds value, and appeals to new users when they see that the tools they need are right there and they don't have to go searching elsewhere.
Like it or not, outside of Pro Tools, a BIG reason a lot of the other big named DAWs have soared in popularity is because they strongly appeal to the "beat-making", electronic, hip-hop, R&B, EDM crowd and this is a tool that is very important in drawing in new users in that crowd. I'm not saying that Cakewalk should only focus on those types, but I don't think that they should totally overlook them either.
Please excuse my poor english:
I am with you 100% Most other Daws offer usable, current Samplers. My perception with Sonar, is when you ask about a utility which other DAWs have built in you will be forwarded to a third Party Application. When Cakewalk wants that Sonar is a modern DAW, it should a little bit overhauled(they do it already). From my perspective its a traditional DAW for Rock Bands and classic music. Sonar has Drop Zone and i used it until it stopped to work 100% ok after a Sonar Update(tested on different PCs and with different Buffer Settings. Only Dropzone has the Problem). For Example: Loading a Kick Drum for electronic music and freezed the Audio.
The Audio is not on time with a slightly shift. Its unusable in this form for me.
I swithed to a working (free) Sampler. As electronic musician i feel that something is wrong when i have to load my Samples for every Instrument in Session Drummer with an Acoustic Drum Set in Front of me. But that is a feeling i personally have.
Other Daws have more modern Tools. Sonar has except a few new things "Year 1998" looking tools which some are in 32 Bit. I have a Powerful PC but when i use Sonar and compare it to other DAWs the drawing of the UI feels slow. I think its because of the old Software Framework. I also think that midi editing is more uncomfortable than in other DAWs. I also own Studio One and it's a lot faster. I think sonar has some good Tools and approaches but it's made for Rock Bands in my opinion and 50 % looks outdated. If Cakewalk wants more Sonar customers they also should look at a broader customer base(They already do a little bit with Sonar Steam Edition).
When you surf on the Net and look for Music Production techniques(electronic) there is often a sampler involved. Drum Layering, Sample mangeling etc. With Stock Tools, with DAWs that cost nearly the same. Logix Pro X costs 199 € and is great.
Maybe they overhaul the Software Framework for the Mac Release, i think they have to.
Now you can say "Then don't use it". But i am to 100% not the only one who thinks so. But i am one of the people who takes the time and writes their toughts down. Pls Sonarians, don't take this personally i am purely objective.
The solution should't be to get free or bought alternative tools as workaround.
As an musician who makes electronic Music, Studio One or Fl Studio has better Options to work with. But i use Sonar because it has the Vst Bridge and i have some older Projects i have to work on.