ORIGINAL: keith

ORIGINAL: steve austin
i know the Mac platform and OS is so elegant and stable and i don't have to make adjustments to the OS to get it working efficiently because it automatically optimises itself when you open Logic Pro

Yes, it's magical. Magically delicious. It's like a frosty breakfast cereal. With a toy surprise inside.

One cleaning bill winging it's way to you sir. Coffee and saliva all over the keyboard.

ORIGINAL: Houndawg
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Modern computers and operating systems are extremely complex (as users demand more and more features), with nearly countless hardware and software options that constitute a practically infinite number of combinations -- there's going to be problems. But the better hardware and software manufacturers (such as Cakewalk) will listen and work through those issues in a timely and professional manner, ultimately providing all of us with fantastic tools for creating music.

Hello there!

It´s really disappointing to find such disskusions here too. I expirience the same things in a german FL-Studio forum right now.
I agree with Houndawg, that it not really depends on which type of computer you are using.
With a good setup you can make good music with both PC an Mac, because the idea of making music starts in your head!
Every DAW ist just a tool and everybody has to find the tool that fits perfect to his or her special needs.
I´m not angry about people working with DAW´s I personally don´t like, why should I? Should I blame people for liking other things?
I think not, because we are free to choose and in the end we might have a good song on CD and nobodies asking, with which software it was made.

Greetings from Germany

bye

ORIGINAL: steve austin

Sorry to say, but i am a hardware musician looking to move to a DAW and all i see in this forum is nothing but problems problems problems with Sonar7 not to mention Vista.
how dare cakewalk advertise S7 as the ducks nuts and 64bit and all that crap when it is far from being stable and efficient.
Over on the Mac side of things, LogicPro8 has just been released and it is 99% stable and bug free "ON RELEASE" and the new Leopard OS will be released this friday and it will give no such problems as Vista does, plus it will actually give a 35% increase in performance because Leopard has been totally optimised for intel multicore processors and it runs 32bit and 64bit applications simultaneously without any need for a so called bit bridge that cakewalk uses.
I would have loved to jump on board with Sonar7 because it looked like a very good DAW with all its new plugs etc but Logic Pro8 has just lowered its price from $999 to $499 which makes it irresistable esspecially when i know the Mac platform and OS is so elegant and stable and i don't have to make adjustments to the OS to get it working efficiently because it automatically optimises itself when you open Logic Pro, and also i don't have to worry about other issues like drivers, bios, and certain obscure settings, but rather just load up and go.by the time LogicPro has its first update it will be100% bug free or as close as you could expect from any DAW.
There is just too many problems and inconsistencies going on with the PC and vista and Sonar for me to even consider hoping on board.
This is mainly cakewalks fault as they have the programmers and resourses to deal with this but alas what a mess they leave us in and they are so slow to do anything about it or come forth and admit things and openly discuss it.
the only plugs that i would like to have in Logic when i buy it, is the V-vocal and the full version of the Rapture synth,well V-vocal is Sonar only so i miss out there but rapture is available as an audio unit for Mac so i will definitely get that, otherwise Logic Pro has more than i need to get the job done, as well as it's included mastering plugs which are truly world class and have been redesigned for the Pro8 version.

The PC side of things from what i can see is nothing but hassles and i would rather be making music than trying to sort out UNECCESSARY problems all day long.
nothing against you guys as i just want you to know that i wanted to join the SONAR crew(as in you lot) but cakewalk can't seem to get their **** sorted out and thats simply not good enough...

Have you even tried using S7 yet? How can you comment on reliablility. You will find that most people will agree that S7 is very stable. Yes, i agree that vista is a problem for some, but XP is still supported and runs perfectly - it does for me anyway.

DONT BLAME CAKE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ENTIRLEY NOT THEIR FAULT. Plus S7 runs better on vista then any other DAW available.

Just to let you know, logic still doesnt support more then 2 processing cores so you can hardly claim that logic is more efficient then sonar (which will make maximum use of whatever you throw at it). THerfore buying a macpro with 8 cores is a total waste of money!

I got Logic running on my IPhone yesterday... I'm never looking back.

Bye Bye

OP seems to have missed the several thousand users who just do not have the time to browse forums because their having so such fun making music with Sonar X.X.X.

Any way new release only weeks old and the bashing has begun same old same old.

I know you're all just acting tough to hide the pain. Let's be honest, every time someone decides not to buy a copy of some software that I quite like, I die a little inside, and I know you all do too.

I'm fighting back the tears, I really am. Somebody hold me.

What-ever. Whats your motive for telling us this??? My Sonar 7 and Vista have been running without any problems.
Your stupid for making a judgement on reading a forum that is meant for helping other users. what did you expect too see. Ofcourse all your going to see is problems. Duh .
Cj

You'd have thought that would be obvious, wouldn't you? I mean, who's going to post a thread saying "Did some recording tonight. Went smoothly."

Maybe we should keep are session logs here..LOL
Cj