ORIGINAL: SvenArne


Anyone else got some feedback on this?

Sven

Hi Sven,

I gave it a try as well and had the exact same results that Dave did. It seems way better than before, the only bizarre behavior is losing the comping when deleting an overlapping layer. Before 8 there were all kinds of wacky things that happened when working with layers. I haven't done any extensive testing, I just recorded 5 simple layers and comped, deleted, rebuilt, and moved a few times. We'll have to see if there are any odd behaviors that eventually show up, but it definitely seems better.

So you might as well have a good time,

John

ORIGINAL: CoteRotie

ORIGINAL: SvenArne


Anyone else got some feedback on this?

Sven

Hi Sven,

I gave it a try as well and had the exact same results that Dave did. It seems way better than before, the only bizarre behavior is losing the comping when deleting an overlapping layer. Before 8 there were all kinds of wacky things that happened when working with layers. I haven't done any extensive testing, I just recorded 5 simple layers and comped, deleted, rebuilt, and moved a few times. We'll have to see if there are any odd behaviors that eventually show up, but it definitely seems better.

So you might as well have a good time,

John

Good to hear that things have gotten better, John! But I'm still a bit troubled by the fact that you say 'deleting overlapping layers' still messes things up. I'd like the freedom of deleting layers at my own leisure while I'm in the middle of putting the comp together. To keep things nice and tidy, I mean...

Sven

ORIGINAL: SvenArne

ORIGINAL: CoteRotie

ORIGINAL: SvenArne


Anyone else got some feedback on this?

Sven

Hi Sven,

I gave it a try as well and had the exact same results that Dave did. It seems way better than before, the only bizarre behavior is losing the comping when deleting an overlapping layer. Before 8 there were all kinds of wacky things that happened when working with layers. I haven't done any extensive testing, I just recorded 5 simple layers and comped, deleted, rebuilt, and moved a few times. We'll have to see if there are any odd behaviors that eventually show up, but it definitely seems better.

So you might as well have a good time,

John

Good to hear that things have gotten better, John! But I'm still a bit troubled by the fact that you say 'deleting overlapping layers' still messes things up. I'd like the freedom of deleting layers at my own leisure while I'm in the middle of putting the comp together. To keep things nice and tidy, I mean...

Sven

Absolutely agreed. I think I'll fill out another bug report on this in hopes that the next update will fix it.

Regards,

John

ORIGINAL: SvenArne
There's something I can't get my head around, though: After I've spent time and energy making a great comp track, the comping arrangement gets ruined (partly or completely) by performing the following actions:

- Clicking 'Rebuild Layers'
- Deleting a layer
- Moving a clip from one layer to another

Sven

So, I was gonna post about the same issue I noticed in S5PE. Say for example, I want to comp 3 rhythm guitar takes on a layered track for the entirety of a song (verse, pre, chorus.....etc). Lets say comp 1 of verse 1 is the winning take overall, but comp 2 of pre-chorus 1 is the winner. According to this thread, you can't move/replace comp 2 of pre 1 with comp 1 w/o creating a format disaster on the track? I'm pretty new to the comping/layer feature in Sonar (had S3PE for a few years w/o that feature). Basically, what is the optimal way to feature the best comps throughout the track so only the best comps playback, regardless of the comps placement within the track? Any help would be much appreciated!

-Joey

great thread Sven, very interesting
-JD

ORIGINAL: bilbosblues

great thread Sven, very interesting
-JD

Yeah, I feel this issue needs some real attention. It's been like this for like four or five versions and it seems like a bug that should be easy to fix! It really makes me not bother with the comping feature when recording!

Sven

Okay, now that the dust has finally settled some around SONAR 8, I bump this thread again. I think this issue deserves more attention, since, for me at least, it effectively renders layer comping useless. The bug should be easy enough to fix.

Sven

I have all the same issues you've been talking about and I agree, it is almost enough to negate the ease of use for comping.  Very frustrating.  And I'm sorry to say that I didn't see any improvement in 8PE, 8.3PE, or 8.5.1PE.  Someday.....

I get around this by copying the track and archive the old one before I begin.

Then if I use the mute function on a clip I use bounce to clips on it when I'm done. Be sure to have the pan law set to zero though.

This way I do not have to worry about data disappearing.

Okay, I've revisited the problem more in depth and you definitely CAN'T delete a clip from any layer once you've started muting. It doesn't matter whether the clip that you want to delete contains any muted portion, all layers are completely unmuted once you press delete.

Sven