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  • Daft Punk "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" (p.2)
2008/06/08 12:33:04
Darkinners
Thanks guys for the pointers :) I will give it a try, btw I didn't thought about vocoder! haha

and yeah, I watched the daft bodies, it's amazing!!!
2008/06/15 14:15:41
Fog
Daft punk just know how to work electronics.. harder..better ... faster

they were way ahead of the game.. I like their stuff, but a lot of it goes deep beyond the preset side of samplers etc. that's the way to get ahead of the game, well was. It's like things like time stretching.. pitch shifting , running synth filters over sounds etc once one group had done it , you got a shed load more doing the same effects. controlling the sampler filters via pitch bend etc.

they don't just sample ONE thing and modify it once, they probably mangle up the sounds big time at different pitches etc.. Reason I say that is when their first 2 albums were out, a lot of the stuff we take for granted wasn't possible as easy back then. Going back some hhm 7-8 years now I guess.

some of the pioneers in drum n bass were the same, the samplers etc were far more limited, so the trick was to work the hardware, output the mangled up version to dat, then bring that back into the sampler.

although kayne west uses their song, it just shows the original is far better.

I used to use a thing called "scrubber" years ago for pitch shifting breaks.. I'd mess with the break in time,then output, then re-sample it, then rechop the slices in recycle.. long winded but the results of doing lab-coat sessions to the end result make a world of difference.

now all that stuff can be done in realtime without so much effort.. (I better stop talking about the good old days, when studio stuff was over priced and I couldn't afford it )

as for the videos.. well the original was best.. rest were poor imitations.
2008/06/16 09:52:38
kayehl


On a vocoder the pitch and tone come from the carrier, and the articulation comes from the modulator. So the vocoded signal will sound like whatever the carrier sounds like, saying the words from the modulator. For me it's hard to get used to the fact that you don't have to sing into the mic -- because the pitch is coming from the carrier. What is important is that you pronounce precisely. Also the carrier can be a continuous drone, because it is only going to sound when triggered by the modulator. And of course the modulator doesn't have to be a mic -- you can modulate with drums or guitar etc.

2008/06/16 12:12:33
Fog
kayehl,

that's what I like about things that take just say a generic audio signal and people just think, wonder what happens if we put a vocal thru a guitar distortion unit instead of a guitar.. all experimenting.

although the DP track always reminds me of the talkbox

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VX5v-S_jGD4&feature=related


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