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  • Liquid Mix ,Sonar X1 64 bit,WIN 7 64 bit......I WON!!!!!!!! (p.2)
2011/11/25 14:52:57
Grent
Thanks GIM. I'd like you to perform one test though. Please run in 48kHz and temporarily delete (or move) the 44.1kHz emulation files from the folder (I think they are located at C:\ProgramData\Liquid Mix\). Do the Plugins find the emulations now in your projects? Because when I got Liquid Mix to work on Win7 64 @ Sonar 64bit, this was an unsolved problem. In 48kHz mode the LM Plugins still used the 44.1kHz emulation files. Thanks again !
2011/11/25 17:44:50
GIM Productions
Hi Grant,i know,i know....this bug is related to Sonar incompatibility that has not been resolved by Focusrite.But i believe that we are very lucky to use 44100 emu with "pro" stability in 64 bit system.In my last prj i have used 24 Liquid Mix instances!No glitch ,drops out,perfect!!! I will replace 48000 emu with awesome 64 bit rendering in Sonar.Best.Roby
2011/11/25 21:03:50
Ham N Egz
Ill have to give Roby this one. Forcing the speed on my FW card the LM was using to 400 let Sonar recognize it in 64 bit X1E. I had one glitch in that the LM would not find the emulations, even though they were placed in the correct location. Running Sonar as administrator cured the issue, and also only 44.1 sampling rate. But it IS a start!!!
2011/11/26 03:59:07
GIM Productions
Hi Musicman,glad to hear this.I can give you an advice to all....Do a fresh install of Liquid Mix.You can clean your registry found three voices,Focusrite,Liquid Mix and Sintefex.After this, you shouldn't have problems with emulation folder.Best.Roby
2011/11/27 02:41:09
biodiode
Well gotta say that this does make Liquid mix more stable. However apart from the emulation folder issue there is one more to look at. Add an instance of Liquid mix and then remove it, doing this makes Sonar X1 hang for a long time before finally being released. If we can cure this issue I will be a happy man :)
2011/11/27 04:15:00
GIM Productions
Sorry to hear this,Biodiode.I never had this problem.All Liquid Mix problems were never reflected on Sonar behavior on my DAW.Sound like a Jbridge wrong setting.You must be sure to check only "run in existing Auxhost".I hope this help.Best.Roby
2011/11/27 06:12:56
adrian4u
If we are on the Liquid Mix topic, I have one question.

Does it have any sens to buy Liquid Mix? There are many good plugins, moreover almost all of us use pretty brast computers, so there is no need to plug external DSP.....
Jst wondering because sometimes I can find on local bidding site Liquid Mix 16 for 200$ or Liquid Mix32 for less than 400$.

In a fact I have the same question concerning UAD.

And second question - Focusrite writes on LM specs that there is latency - so - what (and when) is advantage f using Liquid Mix, UAD or another external DSP which increases overal latency; when we can do the same with just software plugins?
2011/11/27 09:20:11
GIM Productions
Hi, 1)Yes,have sense absolutely.I have purchased Liquid Mix 3 years ago,when the Focusrite hardware emulations was the top class in the Pro studio,see the credits.Infact their Liquid Preamp based on Sintefex tecnology is in many pro studios and is the same tec on Liquid Mix.2)Your question is a common mistake in Audio forums.The fantastic emulations of Liquid Mix(or any other DSP) must be used in Mixing session that is subsequent from Rec session where latency value is important thing.Liquid Mix must be a great Pro final touch at your mixing sessions.By the way ,there is a great Sonar feature "exclude bus or tracks effects",that resolve any problems during rec session.Best.Roby
2011/11/27 20:39:27
bobguitkillerleft
The ability to use Focusrite's Liquid Mix DSP with 64 bit X1 is fantastic news,especially considering Focusrite still claim "SONAR 64bit Not Possible".Unfortunately GIM,I dont understand editing the registry enough,even though I did do it ONCE,to stop "core parking",only to HAVE to re-enable it, due to this laptop needing more than the "stock" 2GHZ,to enable Turbo to 2.9GHz,which SONAR demands for clean audio.As mentioned,there are some "used" Liquid Mix units for sale "cheap" from time to time,but until I can FULLY understand GIM's instructions clearly,Im going to hold off.However you deserve a "Medal" GIM,for acheiving something Focusrites "dev" team can't seem to do for SONAR X1 x64 owners.Cheers Dude.
2011/11/28 04:12:04
GIM Productions
Hi bob...thanks for your kind words.I'm sorry for the registry edit problem,but you can follow the instructions on this site.http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222/en-us only different thing,you must edit with new value (2)the Qword that is a parameter present in W7 64 bit.I hope that the rest is clear.Let me know...Best.Roby
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