backwoods


Speaking of superheroes, there are a couple of candidates on the forums. It has been stated by Cakewalk staffers that Cakewalk's own Jimmy Landry might actually be Batman.

Also, check this out- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxLCq2phm_k . "Happy to Be Alive" by Danny Danzi- virtuoso technique from a guitar super hero.

I'm trying to figure out if there is some sarcasm here or you're truly being nice. :) I'm far from any kind of super hero...but I truly loved Underdog as a kid and was him for Halloween like 4 years in a row. LOL!
 
At any rate, if you were being kind, thank you very much for that. :) If not, have I done something to upset you some how? Sorry for my negative thoughts...it just sort of seemed strange to me that you'd post one of my links out of the blue like that. You did something like this one other time when you posted a piece of my bio from my site on on here in a thread that came out of nowhere. I can't think of a time where I may have gotten into a confrontation with you....but if I have at some point and it's bothering you or something, please feel free to pm me if you'd like to talk about it. :)
 
-Danny

trimph1


Well, I did find some of my mixes could use a sub. 

But now the question arises...which one?

I love my Blue Sky Media Desk because they are designed as a complete balanced 2.1 system.  The sub is not optional.  I like that design philosphy.

Bub


In all seriousness ... what did Mike do that was wrong? Yeah, his post was a bit of a zinger and probably could have been worded a little different, but for the most part I think he's pretty much dead on. My LOL was the 'holy crap I can't believe you just said that' kind.

And let's be honest here ... there's hardly a person in this thread who has any room to be criticizing others for their behavior ... some admin included.

Hey Bub, I don't think it's what anyone did that was wrong....personally, if you don't mind my take, I felt (not singling anyone out...just the over-all vibe I got from some of the responses) I felt a few people may have taken things a bit out of context to what they were really meant to be. For example, let's say you worked for Cakewalk. I know you're pretty much a hobby guy with recording etc, but to me you're a serious hobby guy that does a really good job on your stuff.
 
That said, if you were having issues with low end in your mixes and one day bought a sub and it allowed you not to second guess yourself anymore in the low end area and you just felt like sharing that in a blog because Cake said it was ok to, would you be a little upset if people jumped all over you for stating your opinion on what has worked for you? Regardless of how some of the facts pro engineers would figure into the equasion may not be there, would your opinion be any less credible?
 
See I look at it this way. The super pro guy on here pretty much are etched in stone with how they think, what they do and where their experience level may be. There are also more people that probably aren't super pro on this forum that could really benefit from having a sub if they are struggling to hear bass in their mixes. See man, I was one of those guys. LOL! Bass was something that plagued me for so many years, I wasted too much time.
 
Yeah, monitor/room tuning was one of my major flaws...but without it, just adding that sub made an incredible difference for me. Can you see my point at all? And, since this is the hottest part of the forum, why not tell the people on here that could benefit from this that may not be pro's that just may be in need of fixing a low end issue? That's how I took the blog. Just a normal man that happens to work for Cakewalk sharing what has worked for him in the event others may have been having that issue.
 
I don't think any of it was really misleading as I have heard systems in rooms that didn't have any room or monitor tuning that just did well with the addition of a sub. As a matter of fact, I just worked in a room last week that was like that. The guy had a nice set of Dynaudio monitors and he just bought a sub. He had the sub dialed in a bit subby sounding which I picked up on as soon as I listened to my reference material....but finding the sweet spot for that sub took 15 seconds and other than some foam and stuff, this guy really didn't have much in the way of tuning or anything. The mix I did there came out wonderful and I didn't even use ARC or anything else.
 
So in certain situations, the addtion of a sub can really make a nice difference without all the pro stuff that goes with it. It's just a basic statement of "hey, this worked for me...it may work for you too" is how I took it. I wasn't thinking about Mike T being a pro engineer or anything...or that it should be a spot on, loaded with tech facts blog for pro's because Cakewalk is a professional company or anything. I just took it as "that's what worked for him and he shared it." I'd be willing to bet that's how Mike T felt about it too, ya know? Does this make any sense at all? Honest, I'm not trying to make any waves or upset anyone....I just felt that a few may have been reading into it a bit too deep even though some of their pro assessments would be correct. If it were someone from here that was just a normal dude that didn't work for the company, would that person receive the same comments?
 
Just curious....you get good results with your mixes....do you use a sub? If not, a guy like you with your set-up doesn't appear to need one. If you DO use one, how would you fair if you mixed without turning it on? I'd fail miserably without mine. LOL!
 
-Danny 

Danny Danzi

trimph1


Well, I did find some of my mixes could use a sub. 

But now the question arises...which one?

What monitors do you have currently, trimph? If they offer a sub that was made for them, that's where I'd start. As for me, I've had the best results with an Adam Sub 8 that works well with all my monitors. I have the sub hooked up into a switcher so I can just add in whatever monitors I want to use and the sub is in with them. I have a KRK 10 that's pretty cool too.
 
-Danny

I have a melange of monitors, lol!! . I use a pair of KRK5's for most of my stuff actually, so I might upgrade those, somehow....

My thanks to Danny for a previous post on this topic
Prior to buying a Yorkville sub last week - the comments on my mixes were of the "nice band backing up that bass guitar" variety
Went a long way to solving my issues (the musics ones anyway!)

OK some super heros have brought some balance. :)

My point is that as some can be insensitive with their comments, others can be sympathetic with theirs.

Bud is getting like 10Ten, and mike is starting to remind me of Simon Bar Sinister the way he writes a number of his posts.

Getting all insensitive, in this case, because someone made an effort to share his thoughts on why you need a subwoofer, but didn't write a strickly scientific article to back-up his thoughts.

Hey Danny, it looks like you got to take that "super energy pill." LOL and backwoods is a good guy, and one of my heros. I knew the super heros wouldn't let me down. See, they come and bring balance. John T and FBB are my heros, too. :)
 
Sorry to put y'all in the spotlight, fellows.
 
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For clarity.

I have the KRK 8's and the 10 sub and they work great together. If you add the 10 sub to your KRK 5's I am sure you will love it !

Brammer: you're very welcome! Glad the sub thing has helped you out. See, for some guys, it makes an incredible difference. Again, we can discount room/monitor correction as that can help 10-fold. And in certain situations, it CAN make someone that doesn't have a sub, not need one at all. But me personally, I have just always found it to be the better way because then I never second guess that bass at all. :)

Thomas: Hahaha yeah, I definitely need that super energy pill...40's ain't been too kind to me and Sweet Polly is a lunatic. LMAO! Yeah I talked to backwoods as well....good guy.

My sincere apologies backwoods....I just didn't know how to take the post. I know there are a few people that don't think too much of me and sometimes I just question certain things. Thanks so much for your kind words and the plugs for me in both instances I mentioned. Please forgive me for my insecurities. :)

-Danny

Norrie


I have the KRK 8's and the 10 sub and they work great together. If you add the 10 sub to your KRK 5's I am sure you will love it !

Norrie, that's what I'm using at my other studio. We have the old KRK Rokit 8's...remember the big ones? They sound killer! Added the sub 10 recently and it made an incredible difference for the better. I think the 10 could be a little big for certain rooms, but we have a pretty big one at the new place so it's good for us. One of my buds just got a Genelec 12 or something....it's ferocious and pretty much over-kill in my opinion. How the heck he mixes using that thing is beyond me. LOL! Everything I hear over there seems to have too much sub kick to it...yet when you play his stuff, it always sounds spot on. Hey, whatever works, right? :) Are you using the newer KRK 8's?
 
-Danny

Hi Danny

I do remember the old KRK 8's thats what helped in my choice to pick KRK.

I am useing the newer KRK 8's its the Rokit 8G2 with the Rokit 10 sub

I had a set of Tapco S5s to start out with then upgraded to the KRK's I didnt have the sub for about 6 months as I find the 8s are quite bass heavy as they are but I decided to go ahead and get the 10 and I am very hapy that I did get it.

I love that I can put a foot switch to the 10s and pop it on and off to check mixes so its not always got to be on .
Have to admit though it did take a bit of messing with to get the level right in the room. When I first got it I was just loveing how much bass was comeing from the 10 kind of like ooooooooh I can really feel that kick drum now haha !

I have seen the Genelec 12 but have not heared it in action I did demo the KRK 12 and man it was just huge it would be over kill I just dont have a big enough room for now ;)
Your bud must have a nice big room for that 12 ? What your saying though I agree with 100% IT might be over kill to you but great for him to work with where as the next guy might prefer no sub at all or to just turn it down a bit
Its all down to personal taste
I am pro sub :P others are not but I can tottaly agree that they do not suit everyone