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2012/02/15 23:14:26
Mike Trujillo [Cakewalk]
Bub


Mike Trujillo [Cakewalk]

Am I trying to sell subs? Well duh, come see me Saturday afternoons behind the Stop N Go.
We have Kum & Go's here in the Midwest. When I moved here I almost wrecked my car laughing the first time I saw a sign for one. 

Hahahaha, I've seen those on my travels through the midwest. The first time, I had to look twice to make sure I was reading it right. Then immediately took pictures to post like the 12yo I am! 
Rule #32- Enjoy the little things 


2012/02/15 23:16:12
panup
Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

Some additional perspective perhaps:

Some of the best sounding albums I know of are mixed in this room (or one like it). Both 5.1 and stereo. Granted, the drums and some guitars are recorded elsewhere, but mixing, vocal recording, and even mastering happens in this environment. Just goes to show ya... 

(there's a sub though )



photo courtesy of Sound On Sound

Do you remember/know what are the Genelec models in the picture? Looks like nearfields are 8030A but they could be 8040A, too. Is sun 7060A or bigger? 
2012/02/15 23:20:55
ba_midi
Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

My guess is Billy that people are speaking perhaps more generally, not just about this thread, and not specifically about you. I know that was the case regarding my comments awhile back. You weren't even the first one or only one that questioned the blog post, etc.

Anyway, I definitely know you've supported Cakewalk and been a customer for a long time.

Whether people are speaking in general or not, it's somewhat of a shame how human interaction and communications seems to go backwards at times, especially online.


Basics like good will and jovial attitudes are hard to find these days, indeed.  And, yes, there's enough cynicism to fill multiple auditoriums these days.


But such is the human condition lately.  I sure hope this cycle passes quickly, if possible.

Thanks for the acknowledgement, though, Brandon. I appreciate that.


2012/02/15 23:27:26
bapu
Scott Lee


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The only sub I'd introduce to my mixing process. A subwoofer could be used to check the transfers sonic "accuracy" after the mix is done, not before. You spend top dollar for un influenced reference speakers, Id suggest only using subwoofers to check your mix.  

  


Is much tastier for me (since it's what I've consumed) 
2012/02/15 23:30:56
Fog
you all need to get a sub, start making some dnb and dubstep.. and as a bonus that'll loosen up the sub in the process 

I can't justify the sub for my 824's solely coz it's the same price as the 2 speakers!! BUT I use another 2.1 setup to test the bass. I think if you make "bass heavy" music, then you really get chucked in at the deep end about how not treating it properly can affect things. 

even though 824's go far lower than ya normal 50hz ish monitors.. I'd still prefer to use em with a sub.  

you want / like bass... maybe if you can find them... you can hire yaself the valve sound system, 

takes 3 * 7 tonne lorries to move the "whole" unit. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeuRN1B5T5w  might be an interesting watch.





it's purposely designed for really low end sub bass.


2012/02/15 23:51:12
Bub
ba_midi

Basics like good will and jovial attitudes are hard to find these days, indeed.  And, yes, there's enough cynicism to fill multiple auditoriums these days.
I know what you mean Billy. I didn't even get a chorgle, winky, smiley, or PWF the other day over my "In the park with Aqualung?" comment in different thread. I mean, it really hurt me. It was a classic.
















2012/02/16 00:24:25
Scott Lee
Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
]

Some additional perspective perhaps:

Some of the best sounding albums I know of are mixed in this room (or one like it). Both 5.1 and stereo. Granted, the drums and some guitars are recorded elsewhere, but mixing, vocal recording, and even mastering happens in this environment. Just goes to show ya... 

(there's a sub though )



photo courtesy of Sound On Sound
Nice Mac Pro 


I personally go for lightly toasted italian with all the trimmings.





2012/02/16 00:52:07
Razorwit
konradh

 
Edit: Not sure why s-u-s-p-i-c-i-o-u-s is not allowed.

Hi Konrad,
I assume the forum doesn't allow that word because the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th letters spell a derogatory word for folks of Central and South American heritage. Kinda seems excessive to me, but hey, this is the internet.


Topic at hand, I use a Tannoy sub on a separate output channel than my nearfields. It's 10 inches and activated by a button on my big knob.  Sometimes I use it, sometimes I don't.  It seems to me that I remember the "You need a sub/You don't need a sub" argument going back for some time in studio circles. Some guys like them, some don't. For me I think room treatment is way more important and should come first (otherwise you're just adding clutter not clarity), but there's certainly nothing wrong with getting one. 


Dean


Edit: Rereading that posting I feel like I need to specify that I'm referring to a Mackie Big Knob monitor controller above.  OTOH, the sentence that included that term was the most unintentionally hilarious thing I've written in a while :)

2012/02/16 03:03:48
Brandon Ryan [Roland]
panup


Do you remember/know what are the Genelec models in the picture? Looks like nearfields are 8030A but they could be 8040A, too. Is sun 7060A or bigger?  

Not sure Panu. Looking at it I agree with your assessment: probably 8030A's and a 7060. But too hard to tell for sure as so many Genelec speakers look alike. All I know for sure is it's Steven Wilson's studio in his home somewhere in England.
2012/02/16 03:04:50
Brandon Ryan [Roland]
Razorwit


konradh


Edit: Not sure why s-u-s-p-i-c-i-o-u-s is not allowed.


Edit: Rereading that posting I feel like I need to specify that I'm referring to a Mackie Big Knob monitor controller above.  OTOH, the sentence that included that term was the most unintentionally hilarious thing I've written in a while :)

OMG - HAHAHA 
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