• SONAR
  • Waveform Preview (p.4)
2013/12/14 14:11:27
Splat
John
Alex you need to freeze the synth not the track. 



Yes check #21 where I did both :)
2013/12/14 14:40:49
brundlefly
Wish I'd had seen this earlier. Could have saved a 100 or so posts. Unless I missed something...
 
The track in question appears to be just a synth audio output track. Where's the MIDI track that's driving it? If Maschine is being played from its front panel, and no MIDI output is being recorded all you can get is a waveform preview. You need to record MIDI on a track pointing to Maschine, and then you'll have something to freeze (i.e. render to audio).
2013/12/14 14:59:11
Splat
StepD
Did you try Bounce to Tracks|Live Input? Drag select on the timeline, select your track(s), choose Bounce to Tracks from the Tracks Menu, uncheck Fast Bounce, check Live Input (and maybe Audible Bounce too). Probably won't work but worth a try.




Holy cr*p I can highlight the waveform on track 13 and it will bounce to another track creating a clip! Thankyou!
So this is a step forward but with multiple tracks (16 of them) not practical, I just want to press arm/record on all 16 tracks and will be laid down.
  
thanks...
2013/12/14 15:14:30
Splat
> Where's the MIDI track that's driving it?
Maschine synth is driving it (track 13) it's syncing up with Sonar.


> If Maschine is being played from its front panel, and no MIDI output is being recorded all you can get is a waveform preview
There is no issue at all say with Maschine controller mode say triggering Addictive drums softsynth, but I'm not in controller mode, I'm using a sequenced demo pattern from the maschine softsynth (track 17). Maschine softsynth is playing along to Sonar. In fact I don't even need to have the Maschine switched on.
 
thanks...
 
2013/12/14 16:01:49
Noexcuses
Make sure the track is selected (Just as in your picture), go to the clips pane menu, click on "tracks", then "bounce to Track(s)".  You'll get a pop-up menu. Under "source category", select "tracks". De-select all tracks but the one(s). that you want bounced to audio. At least one selection is needed. The rest should be easy from there.
 
If you freeze, you can add fx and all, but I don't believe that fx stick once you mixdown the entire song. 
2013/12/14 16:08:34
Sanderxpander
CakeAlexS
Nope you can't do any of this with "waveform preview". You can't even drag.

That's not what I said, I said you can drag loops FROM MASCHINE straight onto an audio track (or midi track, depending on how you've configured Maschine). It may not work for what you want to do but that's what I do and it works pretty well for me.
2013/12/14 16:17:08
Splat
Sanderxpander
CakeAlexS
Nope you can't do any of this with "waveform preview". You can't even drag.

That's not what I said, I said you can drag loops FROM MASCHINE straight onto an audio track (or midi track, depending on how you've configured Maschine). It may not work for what you want to do but that's what I do and it works pretty well for me.



Oh you are jumping in with something entirely different, yes I know how to do this thankyou  (and no doubt I will be using it) but please see what I'm specifically trying to do here in this thread.
2013/12/14 16:19:06
Splat
Noexcuses
Make sure the track is selected (Just as in your picture), go to the clips pane menu, click on "tracks", then "bounce to Track(s)".  You'll get a pop-up menu. Under "source category", select "tracks". De-select all tracks but the one(s). that you want bounced to audio. At least one selection is needed. The rest should be easy from there.
 
If you freeze, you can add fx and all, but I don't believe that fx stick once you mixdown the entire song. 





Yup thanks but see #33 :)
2013/12/14 16:23:09
Splat
scook
This is no different than trying to record the output of any other plug-in in real-time. SONAR cannot record plug-in effect or synth output without a plug-in recorder in the FX bin to save the output to a wave file outside of SONAR or use a loopback through the audio interface.



The end of the day this appears to be a major Sonar limitation (although you can bounce the output????). I guess I'm going to have to work around this with a plugin. Any suggestions?
2013/12/14 16:39:09
Noexcuses
Correct.  Pardon any incorrect info.  I'm not in front of my machine, I'm speaking from memory. One thing I forgot to mention is that you may have to have some kind waveform preview first before a mixdown can be done.  If I'm not mistaken, it may not work unless you have at least some preview.  Works for me on every synth I insert. I don't think you can record to a synth track.  What's happening is, you're triggering the instrument(s) on its corresponding track through midi messages (midi track created with the inserted synth).  During playback the midi track triggers the synth on the different tracks and generates the waveform preview.  Normally, the midi track driving the outputs is the last track if the midi option is selected in the synth dialog box.
 
I was not a soft-synth fan, until last year when I had to learn Logic. I was forced to learn this "bounce to track" thing.  Prior production was all done with hardware synth rack modules.
 
I've use this this method heavily w/ Addictive Drums for about 1 year now.
 
Good luck!
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