I think they're saying that a setting that doesn't persist is a bug. It could be a bug (Cakealk intended for the velocity bars to remain hidden if you decided to hide them, left the PRV, then returned - but they don't remain hidden) or it could be a design choice (Cakewalk figured that, like you, seeing velocity is something most users want, so they made it so you don't have to re-enable the bars every time you return to the PRV.)
 
I consider persistence more of a feature request. The basic issue is that default behavior is subjective,and some people will prefer one default behavior over another. The solution is either to have a preference (although they would add up quickly to a sea of preferences given all the possible default behaviors), or choose a default that the majority of users want.

Anderton...I think they're saying that a setting that doesn't persist is a bug...

You're talking to the OP, right, Craig?--because my post earlier is explaining why I don't think there's anyway the defaults we have in the PRV are "bugs."  It's pretty rare that we don't want to see Velocity - and all we have to do is drag the Controller Pane section down as we edit.  Having the panes always showing, instead of having data superimposed on top of notes is the only thing that makes sense to me, so that's permanently on - but people who for some reason like things jumbled up on one screen have that option if they want.
 

Anderton...Cakewalk figured that, like you, seeing velocity is something most users want...

 
Right!  Turning "Show Velocity" may be something useful to some people, turning it on or off as needed - But it seems like maybe those people haven't grasped why the key ingredient here is the "Show/Hide controller pane" option.  Have that on, it will always be on - You don't want to see Velocity?-- pull the panes down.  It's really simple.
 
Randy
 
 

Yes, talking to the OP. But it was pointed out that pulling the panes down doesn't change the behavior unless you have just a tiny sliver of pane showing, so that's why it's a workaround.
 
As to "best practices," I'm with you - the panes are always showing, so I didn't even know the velocity showed on the clips (although again like you, that's the behavior I would want).

Anderton...Yes, talking to the OP. But it was pointed out that pulling the panes down doesn't change the behavior unless you have just a tiny sliver of pane showing...

 
OH!--I see - Like you, I've never noticed that odd little bit, of needing a sliver of the pane showing, since I never use the "Show Velocity" option.  My advice to the OP is as I've said - to not even use that option.  Just have the controller panes on, and if you don't want to see Velocities, pull that area down.  The two options are competing with each other in this other, more complicated scenario - But thanks, now I understand why it is a glitch, if someone insists on using "Show Velocities"-- (even though there's no need to).  Thanks, Craig.

Randy B.
 

Hi, Craig. Thanks for updating the title to "workaround".
 
Hi, Randy. I can't speak for others, but I certainly don't consider this a show-stopper - just an annoyance. I do consider it a bug, however, as, when Sonar is relaunched, the Show Velocity setting remains unchecked, even though velocities are displaying again and to hide them you have to check and uncheck it. 

benjaminfrog...I certainly don't consider this a show-stopper - just an annoyance...

Hi, Benjamin - I'm probably being thick, but I still don't understand why there's any annoyance.  Your goal is to not have velocities displayed.  Apparently you don't want to see them either superimposed on the notes, or in the PRV's Velocity pane.  I completely sympathize with not wanting them plopped on top of the note display - Messy! - And of course that's easily remedied by having the Controller Panes section of the PRV turned on.  That setting is retained by Sonar.  Once that's turned on, if you don't want to see velocities displayed, you just pull the divider down so that lower part of the PRV isn't visible.  You can focus just on notes.  

So, I've never used the Hide Velocity option, because I've never understood why I would need that.  If I don't want to see them, I just hide the controller pane.  But I've never met a MIDI track that didn't need some editing done to its velocities, so I always want their display easily accessible -- So - ??

Randy

Hi Randy,
 
That's totally okay. You don't have to understand why I find it annoying. Different people find different things annoying.
 
You got used to doing it one way and I got used to doing it another way. The feature I got used to is broken. I submitted the problem to Cakewalk and they submitted it to development. Till it's fixed, I'll continue using my preferred workaround.
 
I'm glad you have a method that works for you.
 
Take care,
Ben

Not sure if this is related or not but this is a reproducable bug:

http://forum.cakewalk.com...aspx?m=2962623&p=1