• SONAR
  • The "Sonar X4 Release + Survey Question Speculation" katamari super thread. (p.13)
2014/10/29 12:44:54
Thatsastrat
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
scook
My comment was directed at the observation that Gibson Brands was privately held. I don't understand the distinction between public and private companies in this case. It would appear that you don't either.


Actually, I think you do understand the distinction. I just think it's irrelevant :)
 
This survey wasn't about a bunch of bean counters trying to maximize profits. It's about us understanding how customers use our software and other products in the market place. Pure market research. And the goal is to help improve SONAR and also make the experience better for customers. 


So you wanted to understand how your customers use the software? So you collected the data from the survey.
Now you also have the added bonus of feedback from the forum. Seems to me you are getting what you needed. So why so defensive about the blow back from folks letting you know (remember you wanted data to make Sonar better) how they feel about a subscription model. If your position is viewed as defensive, it sort of makes you look as if your not being truthful about the intent. Just my view.
2014/10/29 12:58:52
Karyn
We can roll back to Cakewalk for DOS?   Yayyyyy!!!1!
2014/10/29 13:05:50
bluzdog
It's the man trying to keep us down!!!
 
Rocky
2014/10/29 14:59:42
Andrew Rossa
Thatsastrat
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
scook
My comment was directed at the observation that Gibson Brands was privately held. I don't understand the distinction between public and private companies in this case. It would appear that you don't either.


Actually, I think you do understand the distinction. I just think it's irrelevant :)
 
This survey wasn't about a bunch of bean counters trying to maximize profits. It's about us understanding how customers use our software and other products in the market place. Pure market research. And the goal is to help improve SONAR and also make the experience better for customers. 


So you wanted to understand how your customers use the software? So you collected the data from the survey.
Now you also have the added bonus of feedback from the forum. Seems to me you are getting what you needed. So why so defensive about the blow back from folks letting you know (remember you wanted data to make Sonar better) how they feel about a subscription model. If your position is viewed as defensive, it sort of makes you look as if your not being truthful about the intent. Just my view.




I am not being defensive. I am just trying to squash some of the speculation based on one question. There are like 5 threads about this already. I thought it would be helpful to shed some light on why were collecting the data. 
2014/10/29 15:01:55
dubdisciple
Or maybe Cakewalk should move to a conscription plan , requiring users to fight as mercenaries in thirld world countries!!! I can just see that popup "We have noticed your M16 has not been fired and your ticket to SYria has remain unused. Your Sonar priviledges are revoked until you  provide proof of confirmed kills on foreign soil.  Thank you and have a wondeful day"
2014/10/29 15:09:07
scook
I have not engaged in any speculation regarding this survey. As a matter of fact, I have not mentioned the survey until now. I made an observation that even privately held companies have stakeholders and could not understand why a company being public or private would matter in this case (the case being conducting surveys). As a result I am schooled in "Business 101" and told that I "understand the distinction" even though it is irrelevant.  This to me means any distinction would not matter in this case, which is what I said.
2014/10/29 15:13:07
Anderton
dubdisciple
Maybe also throw in random bizarre questions like "How do you feel about squirrel euthanasia? " and see if it spurs threads on whether X4 includes a "die now rodent!" Vst



HEY!!!! Beta testers are NOT allowed to talk about upcoming products. You will be removed from the Die Now Rodent plug-in beta test list, for both the VST and AU versions. Sorry, but rules are rules.
 
 
2014/10/29 15:13:56
Anderton
dubdisciple
Maybe cakewalk should move to a prescription plan?



Free meds for everybody!
2014/10/29 15:14:58
dubdisciple
Anderton
dubdisciple
Maybe also throw in random bizarre questions like "How do you feel about squirrel euthanasia? " and see if it spurs threads on whether X4 includes a "die now rodent!" Vst



HEY!!!! Beta testers are NOT allowed to talk about upcoming products. You will be removed from the Die Now Rodent plug-in beta test list, for both the VST and AU versions. Sorry, but rules are rules.
 
 



somebody's gotta standup for the vermin of the world!!! wrong is wrong!
2014/10/29 15:22:02
Anderton
scook
As a result I am schooled in "Business 101" and told that I "understand the distinction" even though it is irrelevant.  This to me means any distinction would not matter in this case, which is what I said.



Which is correct. The Business 101 reference wasn't directed to you, but at the nature of the original comment which as far as I could tell was not about the survey, but the belief that Gibson has to keep Cakewalk money flowing in to satisfy shareholders based on the "business 101" concept that public companies have to cater to their shareholders. Then again, at this point I'm not sure if your comment about "I don't understand the distinction between public and private companies in this case. It would appear that you don't either." was directed at me or the original post #55.
 
In any event...if anyone here didn't know about the differences between private and public companies, they now have a bit of trivia that's sure to liven up the conversation at any party 
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