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  • The "Sonar X4 Release + Survey Question Speculation" katamari super thread. (p.19)
2014/10/30 13:12:41
jbow
Who am I kidding... I'm not going anywhere. I'll roll with whatever Cakewalk does. I've never been treated poorly by Cakewalk so I'll give whatever is decided a chance and more.
 
BTW X4 link: X4
 
J
2014/10/30 13:13:51
Anderton
scook
There faces should still be egg free. From what I have read there has been no comments about future purchasing and licensing schemes of Cakewalk products. There have been comments about the survey and product delivery.



True. The only official comment I saw was that implementing the Adobe model was highly unlikely, or words to that effect.
2014/10/30 13:20:05
InstrEd
Off topic I know but,
I wish Cakewalk would add Gift Cards to buy. My wife knows I like Cakewalk products and it would be an
easy gift to get me.
2014/10/30 13:37:36
mettelus
+1
 
I definitely appreciate when Noel takes the time to post here and give us the "why" candidly. It is rare to see this in any forum. The CW folks (all of them) go "above and beyond" many times in ways that we sometimes take for granted...
 
... now for our coffee mugs!!!
2014/10/30 13:50:44
deswind
If they need money, charge for special updates and features.  For instance, I would not mind paying $$ for more color options.
2014/10/30 13:55:06
Anderton
kitekrazy1
I can understand the paranoia because of Sonar now being a Gibson product and people don't trust them based on history.

 
Well, compare the history of pre-Gibson X2 to post-Gibson X3. FWIW last time I checked, Stanton's market share of turntables was close to 50%, KRK's Rockit series is still #1 in monitors, and TASCAM has had their best year in a long time. So they're all doing OK by Gibson. Remember, Henry uses SONAR as his only DAW and has since the days of DOS. He'll do anything to keep the company in business 
 
BTW those auto tuners on the new Gibsons are not well received by their fans

 
Depends on who you ask, and whether they've actually used the tuners or not. A lot of traditionalists don't like the idea of a piece of electronics on their guitar, which I understand. But others like having something that tunes all six strings simultaneously in seconds and makes alternate tunings practical.
 
I originally thought a self-tuning guitar was unnecessary. However now I would not want a guitar without it. Last weekend while SONAR was running, I tuned up between verses without stopping the transport. It's also a godsend when recording sound libraries, where the tuning has to be perfect all the time. 
 
I've had subscription software before and eventually cancelled it because it seems the value eventually ends or I feel the developer isn't living up to their end.

 
This is one of the fundamental differences I see between a magazine subscription and an Adobe subscription: The magazine has to do something literally every 30 days to convince you that it's worth renewing your subscription, because it costs a lot more money to sign up a new subscriber than retain an existing one. Adobe will automatically retain existing subscribers as long as those subscribers need the program to do their work. 
 
2014/10/30 14:51:57
Andrew Rossa
joden
What will be funny, is the egg on faces if CW do move in this direction. Maybe these comments should be bookmarked for when CW "heavies"  come out at a later date and say it will be subs based after all. Well they could always trot out the old line  "...well we believed what we were saying at the time..."  that amongst a plethora of other "valid reasons and excuses" for CW being forced down the (subscription) path


 
Great, definitely bookmark this thread :)
 
2014/10/30 14:58:33
Andrew Rossa
paulo
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
 
 
This survey wasn't about a bunch of bean counters trying to maximize profits. It's about us understanding how customers use our software and other products in the market place. Pure market research. And the goal is to help improve SONAR and also make the experience better for customers. 




I remain curious as to why you don't ask all of them ?




That's literally impossible to do...some customers don't want to be contacted or don't open their emails. We worked with some pros to figure out the right amount that would make it statistically significant. We've definitely done that. We feel good about the data we received.
 
The interesting thing is that the answers really didn't change much over time. The first 100 people answered about the same way the first 1000 did and so on.

I'm still not sure why you don't get emails. We've tried to fix the problem a few times. PM your current email again and I'll see what we can do to fix it.
2014/10/30 15:25:17
...wicked
Holy jeebuz, can we get all these threads merged already? 
2014/10/30 15:26:25
...wicked
Yeah, so like I said, moving us to a "pay $9/mo instead of $200/yr" and having it allow Cake to roll out updates as they complete them instead major versions every 12 months sounds good to me. 
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