koikane
Thinking of upgrading to X from 8.5 but leary if a new verision is on the horizon.

koikane
Thinking of upgrading to X from 8.5 but leary if a new verision is on the horizon.

You should wait until the first of November before you do anything. I'm hoping they have a "get Sonar X3 now, and get X4 for free on release" deal. They have done it before. Then you get both. I would like to get another X3 for another machine with X1 on it now.


 

Like I said before, I don't see a subscription model happening before the release of the next version of Sonar, but I will say that I'm quite surprised at how reluctant to change I'm reading here. I'm just as reluctant to change as many, but the reality is, I don't OWN the software. I own a COPY of the software, and at any time, software versions can and will eventually become unsupported in the future.
 
NOTE: Keep in mind, I'm not even hinting or suggesting that Cakewalk start a subscription model. But if they do, as long as it's no more expensive than what I'm paying now, I'd be fine with it. There's some months I go without using Sonar at all.

microapp
I am completely against a subscription only model. Quite a few times I had serious problems trying to stop an auto-pay subscription. What comes after the subscription model ? a cloud based Sonar? Steam only? How many people like what Adobe did? All the Adobe users I know are still using CS5.
When I buy something I like to own it.
I think I might stick with X3e or the final version prior to implementation of the subscription model.
One of the nice things now about Sonar is the licensing is essentially on the honor system rather than physical dongles or some complicated web-based dongle.
I am not sure if subscription would affect updates in a positive manner. Updates should not be rushed to meet a schedule because subscribers are expecting an update periodically.
If Cakewalk thinks subscription would attract new users, fine but implement it as an alternate purchasing option.

I agree about the subscription model thing so I will avoid repeating. I am curious about the makeup of the people you know still using CS5. Are these professionals or hobbyists? Also which CS5 products. Photoshop I could see that easily being done ( although handling of raw and HDR images would be a nightmare) but the video related apps would require a lot of work arounds. Native file support for a lot of common files would be non-existant or poor. You can use converters but for a typical pro shoot we are talking gigs and gigs of conversion. I know a few pros holding on to and they are dwindling. Many of us hold on to older versions just in case, but the latest versions are that much better that reverting back is just not happening despite our grumblings. I think switching to alternate software is happenings before anyone dumps current version and whips out CS5.

brconflict
I don't OWN the software. I own a COPY of the software,

Don't want to sound picky however you actually own a license to install the software.
 
Cheers..

CakeAlexS

brconflict
I don't OWN the software. I own a COPY of the software,

Don't want to sound picky however you actually own a license to install the software.
 
Cheers..

Better said. And at that: Revocable license. Not that it would be ripped out for whimsical reasons. Few companies roll like that. 

http://www.reddit.com/r/W...s_sonar_x4_in_company/

Subscriptions? I saw it mentioned on the survey and thought, "OH NO" is Cake possibly thinking of a subscription based Sonar?! Is that why they asked? I hope not because if they do go with a subscription model in as much as I love Sonar I'm movin' on.

Oh, good find ...wicked!!!!!
 

microapp
When I buy something I like to own it.

I've stated my feelings on Adobe's particular type of subscription model several times, in print and in this forum. When I buy a subscription to a magazine, if I stop subscribing, the back issues don't disappear so I can't read them again. If Adobe's subscription worked like a magazine subscription I'd have zero problems with that, where I get a new issue every month and can read it at my leisure or read it next month if I want to. But what Adobe did isn't really a subscription model, it's a rental model.
 
Also as I've stated before, I can see where Adobe's concept works well for large corporations needing to keep offices around the world in sync (and over the long term they save money, too). But I have yet to see a "subscription" model that's designed for individuals and small businesses.
 
I needed Photoshop to do one background for one effects chain I was creating. It was just too much hassle to sign up to Creative Cloud for a month, and I didn't know if maybe I'd want to edit the background again in a month or two...I downloaded Gimp 

I recommend Paint Shop Pro X7. It can do 99.9 % of what Photoshop can do plus uses PS's plugins yet its a heck of a lot cheaper. Its also 64 bits.