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  • Update 1 : Hang after inserting new boz Bark of Dog (p.2)
2015/03/02 16:04:35
chuckmaithonis
Hi John,
 
  Thanks again for the quick response. I do have reasons (other programs...>>sorry<<) for keeping 32bit plugins on my system. I may end up removing all of them, eventually, but I'm really just hung up on the BoD & these Bendeth plugs. Do you think it would work out if I just told Sonar to NOT scan any VST folders in the "Program Files (x86)" directory (ie-remove that directory from the list in the VST prefs), or are there things in there that Sonar needs to see (remember, I'm only talking about the list of directories to scan for VSTs in the VST preferences)??
 
  So... wow, uninstall everything... that is a lot of work! Ok, if that's the only thing left... Here's a few of questions for you first -
1. By C3, do you mean the Command Center? (I haven't gotten hip to that abbreviation,yet ;) )
2. I still have SonarX2 Producer AND SonarX3 Producer installed. Should I uninstall them as well?? (It does seem that Sonar Platinum is otherwise working fine for me)?
3. Do I need to actually uninstall everything (ie - D-Pro, Rapture, Melodyne, Addictive Drums), or just Sonar and it's goodies (found in the sub-tree below Sonar in the Command Center)???
4. Should I also uninstall and reinstall the Command Center before reinstalling Sonar?
 
  Thanks for all your help, John! I really do appreciate it!!
chuck
 
ps - I'm gonna have to do all this tonight or tomorrow (cause it's way too time consuming for right now). I hope I can give you a happy post tomorrow - wish me luck!!
2015/03/02 16:19:13
John
Yes it would work to remove that 32 bit directory from the scan path. Just make sure you don't loose any 32 bit plugins you do really want. I know that sounds contradictory to what is above but you can place really useful 32 bit plugins into another folder and just scan that. I would do a reset too. 
2015/03/02 16:23:21
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
chuckmaithonis
Do you think it would work out if I just told Sonar to NOT scan any VST folders in the "Program Files (x86)" directory (ie-remove that directory from the list in the VST prefs), or are there things in there that Sonar needs to see (remember, I'm only talking about the list of directories to scan for VSTs in the VST preferences)??
 



I would definitely try this first as it is a lot less effort (than reinstalling) and may help you/us understand what is actually causing this.
 
Make notes of what you currently have as your VST paths.
Take out everything pointing towards 32 bit plugs.
RESET VST.
Rescan VST.
Check the "Default All Plugin" layout  if you still have 32 bit plugs on your system (32 bit will be colored green if you look at your plugin list in Sonar's "Browser/"Audio FX").
Report back if the problem persists ...
 
And as John pointed out: You may keep 32 bit plugs (they ain't all evil), but I'd add them back in at a later stage (selectively), once you got BOZ working ...
2015/03/04 14:05:50
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Darn ... all worked fine after installing Dog & David Bendeth - and NOW a few days later (after all this reassuring that it works) it happens to me as well:
 
The Comp and the Bark of Dog still kill Sonar instantly .
 
What is happening here??? X3 and Platinum ... insert BOZ and off you go ...
 
aemmett - could you figure out what caused your problem ???
2015/03/04 15:20:41
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Interesting, it worked in the FX bin but immediately crashed in the ProChannel ...
 
Reset VST and VST scan did not fix it ...
 
Re-install BOZ Benedeth series and then reset VST and VST scan now seemed to fix it (also the Dog which I did not reinstall)
 
Very strange. Never had that happen with any plug before ...
 
 
2015/03/04 16:53:42
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
now it's reproducible on my system, see
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3185804
2015/03/05 11:12:59
cmj2430
I had the same issue with 10db on the pro channel. Support recommended I disable my startup items in Windows and that solved the issue for me. I installed Bark after this and haven't had any issues with that either. I ended up adding the tBone eq as well--the boz stuff is working great across the board.
2015/03/05 15:45:22
rscain
Sorry, I posted about this before I saw this post.
 
 

 
 
 
 

2015/03/06 01:21:19
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
cmj2430
I had the same issue with 10db on the pro channel. Support recommended I disable my startup items in Windows and that solved the issue for me. I installed Bark after this and haven't had any issues with that either. I ended up adding the tBone eq as well--the boz stuff is working great across the board.


Thanks. could you please share a bit more detail as regards which startup items you disabled?
 
I don't seem to have this is issue on my main DAW, which is offline and all start up items disabled. I can reproduce it, though, on my 2nd system, which is allowed to access the www ... hence I cant' just arbitrarily disable everything in msconfig ...
 
Could anti-virus be causing this? Couldn't find any evidence in the anti virus logs, but you never know???
2015/03/06 04:45:59
OldTimerNewComer
Access violations usually point to a
user or program access privilege issue.
Certain files need to be placed in specific places
on your hard drive for Sonar to work properly.
 
Windows needs the program that is making a
request write to your hard drive to be run "as administrator"
or it will block write access to areas it decides
it(installer)/you(user) do not have "permission from the administrator"
to be writing in.
 
There are probably parts of Braintree and BOZ that
are not being written to completion.
 
Making sure that YOU(user) are running a profile that has
administrative permissions,
 
Start->/CONTROL PANELS->/USER ACCOUNTS
 
and running your INSTALLER(CCC) "as administrator"
 
(RIGHT-CLICK the CCC installer, chose "run as administrator" from
the drop-down menu)
 
will give you a better shot at
an install with fewer 'random bugs' following it.
 
Peace
Mel
 
p.s.
Yes, it is  a good idea to turn off any anti-virus software while installing;
you and I have no idea what an AV program will view as "su****ious activity",
and it will always block access to areas it deems "sensitive" in
an attempt to protect your system.
 
 
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