• SONAR
  • Update 1 : Hang after inserting new boz Bark of Dog (p.3)
2015/03/06 07:45:11
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
cmj2430
I had the same issue with 10db on the pro channel. Support recommended I disable my startup items in Windows and that solved the issue for me. I installed Bark after this and haven't had any issues with that either. I ended up adding the tBone eq as well--the boz stuff is working great across the board.





i tried disabling everything not absolutely necessary in the start up and it made no difference ...
 
disabled antivirus, but problem persists ...
2015/03/06 07:50:44
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
On my system it's definitely reproducible that BOZ DOG has a problem with MONO tracks ... it either crashes immediately when inserted into ProChannel of mono tracks, or when inserted into the next track afterwards (irrespective if it is a mono or stereo track) ... strange but true ... dump files uploaded
 
CWBRN-31796
 
2015/03/08 06:47:19
chuckmaithonis
Ok, been busy but...
  Tried taking 32bit references out of the VST scan paths in VST prefs., uninstalled and reinstalled all BOZ. No go, same nasty crash as ever. So I uninstalled Sonar, all BOZ, and EVERYTHING in Command Center except for Addictive Drums. Then re-installed everything. No change at all... Still has death crash upon insertion of any BOZ as ProChannel module, as well as the BOZ eq/comp plugin (the on with both, bot the individual) causing a crash intermittently.
  Man, am I tired of wastin time on these plugins... I could care less about Bark of Dog but I paid $100 bucks for the Bendeth plug ins and I am pissed!
  Yes, I reset AND rescanned (failed and existing both checked)! I have all current drivers for operating system and interface and, etc.... (I keep my gear up to date!).
 
   AND NOW (on somewhat of a side note) - after the update I just now did to SONAR 3:30am PST 03/08/15 (it was yellow on command center), I am seeing crashes when I try to save! What?! Well, I am sure gonna try and reinstall Sonar again, but I am at my wits end... I want to make music, not twiddle my computer!
 
   One question - someone metioned installing as an admin... I will try this, but my question is really if I should run Command Center as Admin to install??
Thanks everybody...
2015/03/08 07:38:10
chuckmaithonis
ok - my head is really messed up by this now. I uninstalled ALL BOZ and then reinstalled them (running the installers as Admin). Alas, no change at all, BUT...
 
FreeFlyBert mentions mono, so on a hunch I did the following (FWIW - all the tracks that I have been using have been mono 44.1 and 24bit) -
 
 1. While stopped (not playing), I clicked the interleave button from mono to stereo.
 2. Oddly, I noticed the ProChannel overloading, traced it to the eq, turned that off, it settled down, and turned it back on again at which point it was no longer red/overloading. This part may have no bearing at all - I don't know.
 3. Now in stereo, I inserted Bark of Dog, and lo and behold - it is working perfectly! Whether playing back audio or not - No crash!
 4. I inserted the BOZ EQ and the Comp ProChannel modules as well and they were stable and worked as well!!
 5. Here's the WEIRD and FUNKY part. For no good reason (while the audio playback was stopped), I decided to toggled the interleave button back to mono. It continued to work fine! I sure don't know what the heck that means, but it has been repeatable 3 times now!
 6. I have also saved in stereo with Bark of Dog inserted, closed SONAR, and reopened and all works well from that startup. I also then retoggled back to mono (which continued to work as it did before) and then saved, closed SONAR, and reopened and it worked then as well. SONAR only seems to crash out when first inserting the BOZ plugins as ProChannel modules into a mono track! I don't understand why, but it is completely repeatable on my system.
 
 
  I remember when the Console Emulator was getting all buggy and causing a resonant (screaming loud) pitch when used in mono back in the X3c update. Maybe there is a similar coding or (??) problem???
 
 
  *on a footnote, the one project that was crashing on save (post update) is still having a problem. I am thinking that somewhere in this process it has become corrupted or (???). 2 other projects (this same one from a previous saved version and a different song) are fine, so I'm just gonna roll with it for a bit. Sorry about gettin' all bent.
 
2015/03/08 12:54:46
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
chuckmaithonis
 
 6. I have also saved in stereo with Bark of Dog inserted, closed SONAR, and reopened and all works well from that startup. I also then retoggled back to mono (which continued to work as it did before) and then saved, closed SONAR, and reopened and it worked then as well. SONAR only seems to crash out when first inserting the BOZ plugins as ProChannel modules into a mono track! I don't understand why, but it is completely repeatable on my system.
 
 
  I remember when the Console Emulator was getting all buggy and causing a resonant (screaming loud) pitch when used in mono back in the X3c update. Maybe there is a similar coding or (??) problem???
 



Hi Chuck, thanks for doing all this ... despite the fact that you actually intended to make music ;-)
 
So you pretty much reproduced my problem on your system and came to same conclusion that something is probably not coded 100% correctly yet for the mono track case ... I think it's now really up to Cakewalk and/or BOZ to review the MONO case and whether they initialize everything correctly in the code.
 
BTW, I had also noticed the overloading indicator on the EQ and had no clue why this is happening because it was a new project where I had just inserted a brand new track ... strange ...
2015/03/08 13:09:55
Splat
Well there's obviously something going on but nobody seems to be able to nail it to specific steps right now...
I couldn't get it to crash on mono tracks so probably need more specific steps...
 
Cheers..
2015/03/09 15:57:31
bozmillar2
Hey guys, I'm looking into this right now. So far I'm not able to reproduce the issue. Some of you that are having the issue, can you please email me directly at  ? I would like to have you try a couple of things.
 
Thank you.
2015/03/09 17:08:42
John
Bozmiller you do not have enough posts yet to post an Email address you can PM me and I will post it here. Or you can post in this form name at carrier dot extension here 
2015/03/09 17:45:25
bozmillar2
oops. Here: prochannelsupport at bozdigitallabs dot com
2015/03/09 18:45:33
aemmett
Hi All
I originally created this thread and can see that it has become very busy since I had some initial success with Bark of Dog (BOD). I have a new hang issue now with it so thought I'd share in case anyone else has seen it ...
 
The new issue occurs when I try to insert BOD onto a simple instrument track created for Rapture.
With this configuration, there is no interleave button...
I have a mini and full dump (5GB) generated by Process Explorer if this is useful to those with debug symbols.
 
Regards
Andy
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