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  • Searching Old fashioned electronic drum sound (p.3)
2016/09/26 01:41:18
telecharge
Nice detective work, Johnny V.
2016/09/26 15:46:06
Mad_Musicologist
Cactus Music
Just listened to the Bob Marley track,,, I then googled it and found this--
 
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So we are looking at an Ace Tone or a  Rhythm Ace R-3
  The Roland TR series came out 10-15 years later. 
http://djjondent.blogspot.ca/2014/11/roland-drum-machines-timeline.html
 
 
Ok, here is how that thing sounds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCsI5If3H1E
So for me it would be interesting to find this machine as VSt Instrument. The thing is, I only can produce .sf2 files, using Creative Vienna Sound Font Studio, which are not being handled by Session Drummer or any other of Sonar's instruments: They need .sfz-files. And even in case I try applying the constellation "SoundFont Device", the sounds will only come out at such a low dynamic level they hardly can be heard.
What can I do, please?




2016/09/26 16:35:21
Mad_Musicologist
telecharge
Mr. Craig Anderton has you covered.
 
http://www.keyboardmag.com/miscellaneous/1265/create-your-own-virtual-instruments-with-sfz-files/31010
 

Thanks for your hint.
I am sorry, I do not understand a single word. I am not a programmer, but a musician. Isn't there a software such as the Soundfont Studio, but for creating .sfz-files instead of .sf2? Or is there any tool for converting .sf2 to .sfz?
I've been trying to get things running, but with no result. Very frustrating. I am about to abandon the project.
2016/09/26 17:04:21
telecharge
Mad_Musicologist
telecharge
Mr. Craig Anderton has you covered.
 
http://www.keyboardmag.com/miscellaneous/1265/create-your-own-virtual-instruments-with-sfz-files/31010
 

Thanks for your hint.
I am sorry, I do not understand a single word. I am not a programmer, but a musician.
I've been trying to get things running, but with no result. Very frustrating. I am about to abandon the project.
 
 
 




I'm sorry for your troubles, but you have been given plenty of options. If you find or create a good Ace Tone drum machine emulator, please let us know.
2016/09/26 17:18:47
tlw
I've seen a few sources over the years that say Perry's original drum machine, and the one used on Marley's "Natty Dread", was a Gibson Mestro Rythm King. It was a box that was very similar in concept, sound and function to the "percussion" sections that were often part of the "home electronic organs" that were popular in the 70s. They had a few pre-set fixed drum partterns, called things like "waltz", "polka", "latin" etc.

There's a youtube demo of a Gibson unit here -
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u7b1KMc7xos

Most of these sounds are actually pretty easy to synthesise or replicate by abusing modern drum and electronic drum samples - severe bit reduction can usefully work the opposite of hi-fi, add in some eq and transient shaping. And remember that there are no accents and the pattern is fixed unless you e.g. remove hats and cymbals using a steep low pass filter (or a steep hi pass to remove the kick). Or isolate a single beat and pass it through a grungy delay and create patterns that way.
2016/09/26 17:27:47
Mad_Musicologist
Yes, I've been given quite some options here. Thankx. Either I fail to understand, or I fail to install properly. I found 2 VSt instruments for download. They come as zip files, a dll and a text note. I insert the dll to Sonar's VSt folder, I can open them in Sonar, but I do not find and sound file in those instruments.
2016/09/26 17:40:58
telecharge
Mad_Musicologist
Yes, I've been given quite some options here. Thankx. Either I fail to understand, or I fail to install properly. I found 2 VSt instruments for download. They come as zip files, a dll and a text note. I insert the dll to Sonar's VSt folder, I can open them in Sonar, but I do not find and sound file in those instruments.



Please see the Sonar documentation for Playing and recording software instruments, and be sure to click through the links at the bottom.
 
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=Tutorial4.1.html
See:
Adding an instrument track to your project
Recording MIDI
Manually entering MIDI notes
 
Also:
I cannot hear MIDI playback
https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013179/I-cannot-hear-MIDI-playback
2016/09/26 18:33:42
notscruffy2
Did you do a rescan of your VST maybe even a reset/rescan
 
2016/09/27 01:31:17
Mad_Musicologist
notscruffy2
Did you do a rescan of your VST maybe even a reset/rescan
 

I am sorry (again..) could you please be a bit more specific. I did scan all my plugins but this does not give me any hint that something was wrong.
What do you mean with "reset", please?
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