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2016/07/19 00:40:22 (permalink)

new original "Participant"

House / Not House.  Electro Jazz?
 
mix crits please, arrangement comments, likey or dislikey, help a brother out.
 
https://soundcloud.com/songsbytom-com/participant
 
 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/19 01:27:23 (permalink)
This was a really good experience. No flaws imo. Sounds were tasty, the bass especially. Also the mix sounded good.

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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/19 08:43:14 (permalink)
Tom's gettin' his disco on! Did you hang a mirrorball in the mix room while mixing?
 
Nice guitar work in this, which came in just as I started wondering where you were going with this, lol. Mix sounds pretty okay to me. Lots of nice touches throughout.
 
Now, about that title...
 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/19 10:20:51 (permalink)
Thanks Kakku, glad you liked it. I tried to make it interesting.
 
Thanks, Dan, I'm shamed to confess there is a mirrorball in my mind at all times. My struggle with this is the arrangement - I don't have a definite idea of how long each section should be, or why! I think there are gaps or some sparseness in spots, but I don't want to overfill. Still working on it.
 
As for the title, I laughed when you called me out - sometimes a "working title" just sticks!  :)
 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/19 12:18:42 (permalink)
very cool Tom - very cool little touches here and there. The guitar kicks the whole thing up another gear - excellent.
It needs a 'Faithless' style rap somewhere
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/19 14:01:53 (permalink)
This is right up my alley!! I lurve me a funky bass line that keeps my head a boppin' and my feet a tappin'.....makes me wanna just pick up my guitar and just jam with this!!
 
Very nice indeed Tom......very good stuff!!!

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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/19 14:15:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby emeraldsoul 2016/07/28 20:52:47
Tom,
 
Very interesting throughout.   Mix is great, instrumentation really good.   One first listen, I would have liked to hear the guitar come in maybe a little earlier but the very Steely Dan'ish chords made the intro stand well .    The 2nd time through the intro up to the guitar coming in did not seem as long.  Like it a lot. 
 
If I had one crit it would be on the drum loops.  Personally, I don't think they are a compliment to the quality of the rest of the tracks.   To me the song has a Steely Dan quality in instrumentation, however, with Steve Gadd replaced with a drum machine:)     That beautiful chord progression you start at 1:26 ahead of the guitar coming in needs a break-up in drum rhythm, they are a bit tedious in my opinion and detract from the overall chordal sophistication of the track.  
 
That said, I listened 3 times so definitely like it.

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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/19 14:33:54 (permalink)
Loved how all the lines were  crystal clear, the harmonies simple and not confused by unnecessary novelties.   Especially liked the guitar,  I was going to compare to Lee Ritenour but really it's sui generis.  Are you the guitarist?  I'd agree with mark though, to be ready for prime time, you might want to rethink the drums.
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/19 14:42:19 (permalink)
This is one funky MF, if you don't mind me saying so. I was listening to it on my new smart phone at work today. Listening again now while I type.
 
Excellent guitar lead Tom.
 
Nothing to criticise as far as I am concerned. Top mix. Drums sounded okay to me personally. Could have been less "loopish" I guess but they were not the highlight of this piece so I'd keep them as they are.
 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/19 16:07:57 (permalink)
Yes to all who get easily bored of the "house" drums. Me too. I think they work for this track but I'll massage them a bit to add variety, probably prune some out and add some AD2 fills maybe.
 
Thanks Daryl1968, I'll look up "Faithless" and see what you are suggesting. I do plan on adding at least a spoken word somethingerother.
 
Mesh, I appreciate your comments greatly! My own criteria if I like a song or not is head bob/foot tap. Glad you could groove to this!
 
Mark, you are spot on, the intro makes the listener wait a little too long, and the other ideas you have are things I'll look in to. Thanks very much for your detailed feedback, it helps. I never thought of the Dan, I think this song might be a little more uptempo than most of their stuff? But it's only 123bpm so maybe not . . .
 
eph221, the drums are going back into the shop for a refurbishment. At least a little! Glad you liked it. I'm going to look up "sui generis" right now. Ellen's Asian sister meguesses! And the guitars are 100% Dracus. Seriously!
 
Synkrotron, I don't mind that monniker at all. Thanks for the compliment and funk on with your bad smartphone!
 
 
 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/21 15:32:55 (permalink)
Not much to add to the comments above...   the drum loops are a bit static but you've got that covered.  Otherwise it's a very cool and groovin' tune with some funky-*** bass lines, smooth EP, cool guitar lines and a nice spattering of hits and effects to spice things up just a little.
 

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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/21 21:49:35 (permalink)
Great song. I really liked the guitar too.
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/23 22:58:24 (permalink)
I agree with the other feed back. Toe tapping groove! A lot of great choices throughout. Went back for a few listens.

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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/24 10:02:36 (permalink)
Very nice sounding. The bass line makes it chug right along.
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/24 15:57:05 (permalink)
I'll add my voice to the kudos above. That is some good playing on the bass.  I love how it pushes this song along.  Nice work.
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/24 17:38:29 (permalink)
Great feel and sound.  Tom, ol pal, you might be interested in some of my ol pal Loveshadow's work on soundcloud.  He is truly a master mixer and turns out a lot of stuff much of which is in this style.  Just search for "Loveshadow" on soundcloud.  Tell him Doghouse sent ya:-)
 
 

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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/24 18:45:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby emeraldsoul 2016/07/28 20:54:39
this is definitely not what I expected from you, Tom!
 
love the groove, love the guitar licks!  it's a little loud in the mix, tho, IMO
bass is movin!
 
drums could use some variety.
 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/30 17:31:17 (permalink)
Gheeesh, Tom, you got me poppin.  Well, I would if I was younger.  Feet are movin and Im typing in time.  I love this!
I have been absent for quite awhile and I looked for the guys I knew.  I didn't remember you doing this kind of stuff.  You should, though.  This is GOOD movin music!  What did you use for bass?

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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/31 00:38:18 (permalink)
I've gotten some seriously good advice on this one, thanks all!
 
Return of "Participant" . . . added obligatory "Ahh Yeahh" sample, dropped the volume on the guitar solo, tried to obscure the Housiness of the drums in spots, added some organ fill, as well as some gratuitous hi-hats and cymbals.
 
https://soundcloud.com/songsbytom-com/participant
 
 
thanks, mix / structure comments still welcome!
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/31 08:12:36 (permalink)
This is nice.  Funky beat loop and interesting chord and melody work.  Definitely holds the listener's interest.
 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/31 11:29:25 (permalink)
Once I got past the sense that the tune was trying to figure out what it was, I was free to enjoy all the cool elements contained therein.  Nice work, Tom.
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/31 12:15:31 (permalink)
Nice one Tom. Did you have the lead vocal on mute?
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/31 12:23:46 (permalink)
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Once I got past the sense that the tune was trying to figure out what it was . . .




Phil, my thoughts exactly.
 
Warren, thanks for the listen and glad you liked it. The bass is Ilya Efimov Fretless - (full disclosure - I love playing bass and usually do, but what I can't seem to do as well is record the bass) - eq'd with everything above say 700hz completely removed and put through just a little chorus as well, then gently limited.
 
Beagle, many thanks! I especially like that you were surprised! Like many folks here, I have a difficult time accepting genres.
 
Yoropal, thanks and also for dropping Loveshadow on me, extremely good mixes that I really enjoyed listening to (like yours)
 
Thanks also John B, Freddy, Stringjammer, Hill62, FiresongX, and Steve C . . . the kudos mean a lot. We all spend hours on this stuff for little obvious reason that makes any sense, so the feedback on this forum is definitely appreciated . . .
 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/07/31 15:56:10 (permalink)
Really digging this one Tom. To my ears, it is flawless. Tasty grooves and tones, top mix to boot. :)

 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/08/01 13:16:05 (permalink)
Good one Tom, you have some great sounds on this, I liked the EP chords at the beginning, then the guitar kicks in and takes it up a level.  Nice had the furry toes a tapping def worthy of a

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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/08/02 14:48:57 (permalink)
hey esoul, I have no idea what style this is, but I'm dancing to it.  I really like the keys a lot.  The bass underneath is cool too.  You must be a keyboard player.  The way the guitar comes in at 1:40 is Nice too.  I'm still dancing.   I like the way it changes at 3:30.  Cool song nice arrangement that never gets boring.
 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/08/02 20:09:43 (permalink)
Everything sounded good! Its very movie like. I like it.
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/08/15 21:30:23 (permalink)
cool indeed...  I concur with all stated  ;o) ....especially that groove.  thanks for the share.

 
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Re: new original "Participant" 2016/08/15 23:46:13 (permalink)
wow nice!  I like the piano sound!  It starts off electro jazz, but the guitar turns it into electro fusion too!  you're having way lot of fun!
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