ORIGINAL: foxwolfen

ORIGINAL: mike_mccue

Can we talk about biscuits? :-)

Other people have mentioned that they do not want to be confronted with talk about guns here, they have a valid point.

And yes, it is a religion, and the NRA the governing church, like it or not. It is also a political lobby. Therefor this thread is not appropriate on any level.

Besides, I subscribe to the New York Times. I prefer to get my news from them, not here from you.

Thanks.

ORIGINAL: mike_mccue

Can we talk about biscuits? :-)

ORIGINAL: spacey

Well I didn't read every post here....

My post was more about the legality of protecting ones family or ones self in the state of Lousiana.
Also an example of how a citizen can protect themselves on the street. (iin AR)

For the ones that talk about guns and that it's offensive. I understand but one should realize that protecting yourself isn't limited to guns.

I am not going to drag anything out but thought that information should be pointed out. Many things can be considered a weapon and trialed as one in the United States judicial courts. Even the hands of a martial artists or trained military person for example.

The topic can be very upsetting for some and I didn't consider that in my post. I apologize if I have upset anybody. I assure you it was not intentional.

Sincerely,
Michael

USSA

ORIGINAL: Monkey23

ORIGINAL: Guitarhacker

Our local Walmart has a rent-a-cop that drives around the lot with flashin lights due to the robberies, rapes, kidnappings, and shootouts in their parking lot.

Needless to say, I don't go anywhere with my 9mm. I carry it to church, to work, and to all other places that don't prohibit me from exercising my 2nd amendment right. If they have a "No CCW" sign, I don't do business with them. In NC, there is currently legislation to allow CCW in resturants that serve adult beverages with the meals. I'll be glad when it passes.

Crime and gangs are out of control in the USA..... small towns are not immune, living in the country is not safe anymore..... protect your self..... just ask yourself this question:

Would you rather have a gun and not need it...or need it and not have it?


MOST DANGEROUS PLACE TO BE: in a "gun free zone"... think about it.

Uh.. Where the hell do you live where you need guns at church, and a cop at Wall-mart to prevent rapes and kidnappings?!

I'm not trying to stand on my high horse here, because there is violence everywhere, but this is excessive and by no means normal. This thread should not debate guns vs no guns, but maybe should discuss why your town (state? country?) is so dangerous that it would be deemed reasonable and necessary to bring your gun to work and church!

ORIGINAL: RRabbi

Monkey23, we're Canadian... I understand the thinking behind carrying a firearm, about as much as an American understands how the heck we can leave the house without locking the door behind us. ;)

ORIGINAL: robby

Yeah, try that in Atlanta... It's a question of perspective. If you've never been attacked? Then you don't know what it is? However, if you've been attacked repeatedly? Then jokes about being attacked are less humorous? I’m sure you know what I mean, the soap's right over there? I just dropped it? If you wouldn't mind "picking it up?" Come on, be a sport!

And hey, we can all agree that rape is horrible? So to prevent it? Let's cut of "that which you hold near and dear" to make sure it never happens? Regardless of the fact that you personally have never committed this act? That is immaterial. What is important is that by being “the owner” of said organ, you are “potentially” an abuser with said organ, and therefore, you must be stopped before you commit a horrible injustice on another. At the very least, we need to make sure that if you keep that thing? It needs to be printed, licensed, and taxed… After all? We don’t want it to get “out of hand” (so to speak?)

The mere "potential of you having that "thing" in your position? Well, it's just not safe and I personally think "it should be removed" just to prevent "the possibility" that it could be used in an aggressive way? Toward another innocent potential victim? You understand don't you? And besides, you don't really "need it". It’s not “essential equipment?” So let's go? Present ARMS! Draw back STUBS!

And after all? It’s better “for the community” if you don’t have “it”, you understand, don’t you? People don’t “assault” people? It’s “the thing” you know? The thing, and therefore you may not be trusted with one. You should understand the logic of my argument, it is impossible to defeat…

It makes sense, doesn’t it? Some people hurt people with those things? And therefore, YOU should not be allowed to possess one? Make sense? No? You want to keep your thing? What the? But I thought it was the “thing?” and not the person? Wait? Now I’m confused…

ORIGINAL: Beagle

A man entered a church in Texas and shoots up the TEEN department..... story after story.....

That's the church where I go - Wedgwood Baptist in Ft. Worth, TX. it was September 1999 a gunman killed 7 people and himself and injured 7 others. most of those killed were teens - it was a concert at the church for the teens on a Wednesday night.

ORIGINAL: spacey

ORIGINAL: RRabbi

Monkey23, we're Canadian... I understand the thinking behind carrying a firearm, about as much as an American understands how the heck we can leave the house without locking the door behind us. ;)

"However, the rate of property crimes is lower in the U.S. than in Canada"- from wiki

If you did lock your doors then the statistics could possibly put Canada lower in property crime rate. (until robbers in Canada understand that they probably shouldn't enter a protected home)

ORIGINAL: space_cowboy

Robby I am confused. Are you talking about privates when you say "it" or "thing"?" Or are you talking about guns? Or are you talking about pet gila monsters?

ORIGINAL: robby

Yeah, try that in Atlanta... It's a question of perspective. If you've never been attacked? Then you don't know what it is? However, if you've been attacked repeatedly? Then jokes about being attacked are less humorous? I’m sure you know what I mean, the soap's right over there? I just dropped it? If you wouldn't mind "picking it up?" Come on, be a sport!

And hey, we can all agree that rape is horrible? So to prevent it? Let's cut of "that which you hold near and dear" to make sure it never happens? Regardless of the fact that you personally have never committed this act? That is immaterial. What is important is that by being “the owner” of said organ, you are “potentially” an abuser with said organ, and therefore, you must be stopped before you commit a horrible injustice on another. At the very least, we need to make sure that if you keep that thing? It needs to be printed, licensed, and taxed… After all? We don’t want it to get “out of hand” (so to speak?)

The mere "potential of you having that "thing" in your position? Well, it's just not safe and I personally think "it should be removed" just to prevent "the possibility" that it could be used in an aggressive way? Toward another innocent potential victim? You understand don't you? And besides, you don't really "need it". It’s not “essential equipment?” So let's go? Present ARMS! Draw back STUBS!

And after all? It’s better “for the community” if you don’t have “it”, you understand, don’t you? People don’t “assault” people? It’s “the thing” you know? The thing, and therefore you may not be trusted with one. You should understand the logic of my argument, it is impossible to defeat…

It makes sense, doesn’t it? Some people hurt people with those things? And therefore, YOU should not be allowed to possess one? Make sense? No? You want to keep your thing? What the? But I thought it was the “thing?” and not the person? Wait? Now I’m confused…

robby

I guess what I was saying is that maybe the issue of why you would need to carry a gun (to work and church) should be the question on everybody's minds.

ORIGINAL: Monkey23

ORIGINAL: Guitarhacker

I carry my gun to church and so do a number of other people in my church. It's legally concealed, and very few people there know I have it.... but I do have it...hopefully, I will never need it.

Canada is one of the big GFZ countries.... the government has taken your right to protect yourselves away and waged a propaganda campaign that has convinced most Canadians that guns are evil. England has also stripped it's people of the right to possess a firearm. As a result, in England, KNIFE crimes are now a major problem.


In spite of all this craziness...I still prefer this country over any other in the world.

I haven't been to every country so I couldn't chime in that one but I will say that I have been to yours and there is a lot to like about it. I have family members all our the States, and love to visit. However, it just seems that the problem is bigger than the gun debate. I guess what I was saying is that maybe the issue of why you would need to carry a gun (to work and church) should be the question on everybody's minds.