oh great... shootout at my fast food stop

Bummer... my early-early morning fast food take out was the scene of a shootout yesterday. 1 down 4 in the hospital.

I saw the crime tape yesterday... and just caught the news this morning... I'm glad I missed the event. It took place right about 4:30a.m. which is about when I roll in for my biscuit.

I always feel a little silly when I'm watching my back in strange places in the middle of the night... now I guess I'm back to feeling paranoid while I'm watching my back.

:-(

"We should pray for the families affected by these tragedies."

+1

One of the reasons I left NYC. You always had to be on the jump, which isn't bad, but does get wearing. The first week I was there we walked right past a shooting @ 105 & Broadway - could hear the shots. This was in the 80s and I was with my GF now wife. After we walked past the wreckage, I asked her what she thought. We could hear the sirens. She said, "I just wanted to keep walking." I said, "Good girl."

After 10 years we moved to dallas, got a great deal in the old money suburb, top 10 schools in the nation. Come to find out the old lady 2 doors down was murdered by a guy w/ a "broken down car." Just goes to show you. But at least I don't have to automatically scan the street when I step out of the door.

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Space,

Well, even without New Orlean's finest Dallas always ranks right up there nationally in all manner of violence. Still, after NYC I don't feel so ... exposed. At least I know if I'm going out to the less safe places and can switch to alert status.

But at night I'm wary about answering the door after the neighbor's story. I live right off of 75 Central (it the city up the middle) and we are always getting people whose cars break down (and what kind of person doesn't have a jack or tire tool in their car? The kind of person that that thinks a GM truck will fit their honda tires - it pisses me off). So, yes, I'll usually slip my beretta into the waistband before hand. But I've got a boxer - dogs are a better security system than anything electronic. The uglier, the more repect they get.

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"I have a 1911 with three"

Now your talking ;-)... I didn't think the H&K was big enough :-).

The news broke tonight that the person who died was a bystander... I gotta find a new biscuit.

Wait - don't criminals have to abide by the Gun Free regulations too? I mean, if they don't, they would be criminals.

Guitarhacker - no chl here (keep debating it) but ready for most of what comes at me. We have the Castle Doctrine in Tex that says your car, your office and your home are all places that you can legally keep a gack.

Um... gents... this is a music related forum first and foremost. The forum description reads "Music related off topic discussion".

Please keep the gun talk out of here. Exercise your amendment rights in the appropriate place. This is not it.

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Now I dunno what that means to you, but by the rules of grammar, the "topic" part would relate to those as listed on the "all forums" page, and the "off" would synch to those topics and be music related.

Now, you wanna talk about a cowboy (music) vid where he uses a classic sixshooter badly.. go for it. But leave your own guns at the door please.

Can we talk about biscuits? :-)

"Safety is in keeping your eyes peeled in iffy situations, at all time."

I agree 101%. Personally, I don't exercise my rights as described above... but I understand why people do.

15 years ago my aunt was killed in a shopping mall parking lot in front of her kids... that's not an uncommon experience for many of us in the States. The way people react to those sorts of social pressures is their choice and luckily in most of the country we can do what we need to do to feel safe.

Re: 1911. Yes that's complete and total "boy's club talk" on my part if you had a 1911 you know all about it :-). I thought I could rib Space but now I know he's in the club :-)

best regards,
mike

Seriously, Fox, you're my friend, but One Day I hope they will find that preaching gene, and eradicate it, like polio. Lighten up.

ORIGINAL: Guitarhacker

NC officially does not have the castle doctrine.....so using a gun for selfdefense even in my home becomes a bit more complicated. Legally I can use a gun if someone's in the process of breaking in...but not on them once they are inside, unless they are trying to do bodily harm to me or my family.

I just bought the gun regulations book for travelers and it gives all kinds of valuable info...Alaska is the most gun friendly state.

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6... You have to love bumper stickers.

It's a legitimate hobby. I don't hunt, and don't kill animals, but don't begrudge someone else the right to do so? I catch bugs and let them outside. But I "love" to target shoot. And I have a nice big safe, where all of my weapons are stored? So it's not like someone's going to break in and steel them and use them for ill. It's ok not to own one, and not to want to be near them, but some people feel that way about cars? "etc". Freedom is ultimately the right to be free and self determinate, and associate with like minded individuals if one chooses to do so.

Now if someone were to discuss making a political assassination for religious reasons with a gun? Well I could see that as a violation of forum policy? But hunting or target shooting are (or should be) within the bounds of propriety. Yes true, there is horrible violence perpetrated with weapons, yes, cannot argue that point. However, many horrible crimes have been stopped as a result as well? It’s a tricky subject and one bound to engender passionate opinions on either side, I would err on the side of freedom, personal responsibility, and accountability... i.e., don't do the crime if you're not ready "to fry for it", and I don't mean 20 years on death row either...

Other people have mentioned that they do not want to be confronted with talk about guns here, they have a valid point.

That must be very pleasant for them never having to confront reality. Leave it to others to protect and defend them while they turn up their collective nose to the notion of ever having to stand in front of the sheep to defend them. The police are paid to take the nasty gun out with them where ever they may go. But you citizen don't want to be confronted by the real world.

We all have a duty to defend and protect each other. That idea has served this county well through its history. Now some feel that maybe they are removed from this notion and take a pass on it. Shame on them.