old song remixed

Today I got ARC and installed it.  I decided to run it on some older stuff so I could "play around" with it a bit. 

 
I worked on this song and then discovered that I was using ARC incorrectly. 

So this version of this song is BEFORE ARC....although it is a completely new version with regards to the tracks, instrumentation and such things..... 
 

     http://www.soundclick.com...34&songID=11386873



Be sure to listen on good speakers, studio monitors, or cans.


I'll worry  work with ARC later. 

You're not exporting with ARC turned on are you Herb?

In case you did not know, that is not what you do. You use it to listen (in your not so perfect room) to hear your monitors in "compensated EQ mode". When you export you should turn off ARC as it applies the compensated EQ (for your room only) to the mix.

Thanks Bapu... reading the instruction manual now..... so much for winging it.




Add: I prolly need to go and redo the whole setup thing..... 

Live and learn....



gotta work tomorrow, so it will be a studio day on Wed...... 

Chuck, that was the biggest thing I noticed right up front. A serious reduction in the bass response I was getting. AND.... when I switch it on, the stereo field seemed to really become much closer to mono. 

I ran the set up 3 times so far. 2 times with the sub turned off because as I started through the set up, first, I had the monitors turned way, way down.... and when the sub was on, the mic was feeding back and ringing on the low freqs and there was no way to get all my small listening area covered w/o getting that feedback. 

I have to work today so I will set up again tomorrow if I have time. I need to place the mic on a stand as the instructions say rather then setting in my chair and simply holding it in the sweet spot circle. 

On the song... I have some minor tweeks to make to some levels. This song has come a great distance. The original version ...that center string section was the worst part to me as it was originally rendered with horns.... so I tried electric guitar, acoustic guitar and finally some strings. I switched the string synth 3 times. 

Glad you like it. 

Nice, airy mix! Loving the guitars in this! Piano sounds great too. This is a great piece, Herb!

What the heck is ARC? (before I listen)

robby - ARC is IK Multimedia's Acoustic Room Correction plugin.  it's designed to EQ out the standing waves and reflections in your room for you to mix to a flat response.  but you are supposed to remove it before you export as bapu says above, which it sounds like Herb didn't realize he was supposed to do.

you don't want to export with ARC still on, you only want to mix with it so that you are mixing to flat response. 

Hey Herb,


I'm totally confused on which version this is, whether it was completely done before you got ARC, or if it was remixed with ARC, and then exported "without ARC".  Either way, this is really a beautiful, haunting instrumental, and the mix sounds fantastic here!


A little different than your usual style, but it sounds excellent and shows off your great songwriting and arranging skills. 


Really nice job, Herb, have a great weekend!
Bob

Tim & Bob..this version is before ARC.  I was using ARC incorrectly. 

Back to the setup phase.

Dream-like guitar too verb.I think this is why they sometimes run together, I think the verb you want less, so you can keep them separate, because you want to hear the harmony guitar line every business . it is really wonderful..it is a beautiful composition.

Richard: spam in the signature?

Kenny: yeah this was posted some time in the past.... the center part that now has strings had horns and steel ...totally out of the character of the rest of the song.  Someone also had commented that the twin guitars reminded them of the  Scorpions. 

With ARC it's a matter of getting used to it. 


About that camera angle video.... you look like a friend of mine with whom I used to play in a band. He was a bass player. You also have a bit of a Willie N look about you as well. 

Wonderful arrangement Herb... excellent production too...
I would love to hear you develop this more with some compelling lyrics, and a killer vocal performance... 
well done...

Rimshot, Notnat, and Joshua....thanks for listening.  

Thanks Radio. 

Thanks Gary.  I wanted to keep the bass low.... it was almost a decision to keep the bass out totally in a few places.