pro tools 9

SongCraft



. Compatible with ANY audio interface and being able to run on a mere laptop with it's internal built-in audio and still get low latency (with the new; ADC) wow this is perfect for anyone on the go. This is 'true' portability, just grab the laptop and catch that flight!


. Improved Stability - Apparently PT9 is so Rock Solid it will run on a cheap off the shelf PC or Mac without the need for additional external audio interface and considering what's included such as; full featured Elastic Audio, Beat Detective and Tons of Plugins it's a wonder anyone would need much else especially when getting ideas down on the fly whilst your on that flight!

Please give me a good reason why I should NOT purchase PT9?

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. Price for PT9 is $599 (11/2010) seems a bit rich, and more so for the expansion pack.

D K


I know we are on our "Home Court" here but if you think that what Avid just announced yesterday was not extremely significant and a Game changing moment for the world of Native Daws - you are fooling yourself!

It will be a real threat to every DAW Software Manaufacturer in the business..period

Like it or not - at that price and with that functionality (although still a bit limited -No offline bounce..yet) there will be mass migration...count on it

Avid hit it out of the park..gotta give it to them

Moseph

D K


I know we are on our "Home Court" here but if you think that what Avid just announced yesterday was not extremely significant and a Game changing moment for the world of Native Daws - you are fooling yourself!

It will be a real threat to every DAW Software Manaufacturer in the business..period

Like it or not - at that price and with that functionality (although still a bit limited -No offline bounce..yet) there will be mass migration...count on it

Avid hit it out of the park..gotta give it to them

I'd call this an in-the-park hit...possibly a home run all-the-same.

There are 2 big things to think about here:

(01) We're assuming that PT9 won't have issues with 3rd part hardware at all.  This might not be the case.  Look at the DICE II thing:  Cakewalk has been struggling with that one on some systems (including mine) since DICE II interfaces came out.  Avid/Digidesign never had to worry about that before.

(02) There won't be any "intro" product:  LE and M-Powered look like they're going away.  That leaves users with either the "big" version, or another DAW.  So a $600 price tag can easily compare to say, Sonar Producer, but there's simply nothing in the price range to compete with Sonar Home Studio.

mike_mccue

I wonder if the bundled RTAS will work in SONAR?

Not unless Roland/Cakewalk want to pay some big bucks for it, I'll bet.  RTAS is a pretty closed format.  FXpansion actually has discussion about it, since they make plugin wrappers:

http://www.fxpansion.com/...page=15&tab=64#168

That being said, if these native plugins are anything like what Digidesign used to hand out back in Pro Tools 6-7, I'm not worried about it.  Those were perfectly functional, but they wouldn't blow you away.

BEATZM1D10T

You guys can switch if you want...I mean there would be substantially less complaining on the forum. But, I don't want to pay 600 dollars for a DAW which can't perform the simple task of input monitoring. Read it for yourself: http://www.avid.com/us/pr...mily/Pro-Tools/compare

Home Studio 7 can do that and it's 100 bucks...

This thread has hit full on ****.

No, this is definitely a game-changer.  "Pro Tools" is what people say when they mean "DAW", especially when they're first getting started in recording or don't really know what they're talking about.  Like "Kleenex" or "Band-Aid".  You generally have to explain that Sonar and Pro Tools do the same thing.  Now we have a situation where there's a somewhat affordable (though still pretty pricey) version of the software coming out that people will unwittingly ask for by name.

As for the input monitor thing, I wonder if that refers to the dedicated "Input Monitor" button on the MSR section of channels.  In PT8, I noticed it existed for |HD, but not for LE/M-Powered.  When working in M-Powered, you could still listen to yourself via "Record Enable", but the dedicated "always on" button didn't exist.  It's kind of a stupid implementation, but it's got a really shallow learning curve, especially once you know about it.

I can't imagine that Avid would put this thing out with ADC, but no Input Monitoring whatsoever, especially since their previous Native software (i.e., M-Powered) already did it.  That would render a lot of the other functionality (like 32 simultaneous I/O) nearly useless.  I suspect (and hope) that they're really talking about the dedicated button.  Otherwise you're right, suddenly you're spending $600 and not getting a feature that reduces the usability to that of Audacity.

Beagle

BEATZM1D10T

Moseph

D K


I know we are on our "Home Court" here but if you think that what Avid just announced yesterday was not extremely significant and a Game changing moment for the world of Native Daws - you are fooling yourself!

It will be a real threat to every DAW Software Manaufacturer in the business..period

Like it or not - at that price and with that functionality (although still a bit limited -No offline bounce..yet) there will be mass migration...count on it

Avid hit it out of the park..gotta give it to them

I'd call this an in-the-park hit...possibly a home run all-the-same.

There are 2 big things to think about here:

(01) We're assuming that PT9 won't have issues with 3rd part hardware at all.  This might not be the case.  Look at the DICE II thing:  Cakewalk has been struggling with that one on some systems (including mine) since DICE II interfaces came out.  Avid/Digidesign never had to worry about that before.

(02) There won't be any "intro" product:  LE and M-Powered look like they're going away.  That leaves users with either the "big" version, or another DAW.  So a $600 price tag can easily compare to say, Sonar Producer, but there's simply nothing in the price range to compete with Sonar Home Studio.

mike_mccue

I wonder if the bundled RTAS will work in SONAR?

Not unless Roland/Cakewalk want to pay some big bucks for it, I'll bet.  RTAS is a pretty closed format.  FXpansion actually has discussion about it, since they make plugin wrappers:

http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=15&tab=64#168

That being said, if these native plugins are anything like what Digidesign used to hand out back in Pro Tools 6-7, I'm not worried about it.  Those were perfectly functional, but they wouldn't blow you away.

BEATZM1D10T

You guys can switch if you want...I mean there would be substantially less complaining on the forum. But, I don't want to pay 600 dollars for a DAW which can't perform the simple task of input monitoring. Read it for yourself: http://www.avid.com/us/products/family/Pro-Tools/compare

Home Studio 7 can do that and it's 100 bucks...

This thread has hit full on ****.

No, this is definitely a game-changer.  "Pro Tools" is what people say when they mean "DAW", especially when they're first getting started in recording or don't really know what they're talking about.  Like "Kleenex" or "Band-Aid".  You generally have to explain that Sonar and Pro Tools do the same thing.  Now we have a situation where there's a somewhat affordable (though still pretty pricey) version of the software coming out that people will unwittingly ask for by name.

As for the input monitor thing, I wonder if that refers to the dedicated "Input Monitor" button on the MSR section of channels.  In PT8, I noticed it existed for |HD, but not for LE/M-Powered.  When working in M-Powered, you could still listen to yourself via "Record Enable", but the dedicated "always on" button didn't exist.  It's kind of a stupid implementation, but it's got a really shallow learning curve, especially once you know about it.

I can't imagine that Avid would put this thing out with ADC, but no Input Monitoring whatsoever, especially since their previous Native software (i.e., M-Powered) already did it.  That would render a lot of the other functionality (like 32 simultaneous I/O) nearly useless.  I suspect (and hope) that they're really talking about the dedicated button.  Otherwise you're right, suddenly you're spending $600 and not getting a feature that reduces the usability to that of Audacity.

Believe what you want. Let's see if anyone can afford it with this 2nd round of quantitative easing...

Home Studio 7 has pretty much the exact same feature set for 500 dollars less money.

Oh, yeah you also need to pay extra for true surround sound.

Home Studio doesn't do surround sound either.  you have to have Sonar Studio or Producer for that.
 
I'm not arguing against you that HS is a better value for $100, just wanted to clear up any misconception.

D K


I knew when I posted that there would be reactions like BEATZM1D10T - I thought that keeping it out of the Main forum and down here in software would be better but..oh well

Yo BEATZ - Believe what you want Holmes..I never said anything about changing over to anything..read my post again..

It is significant step for Avid and it is..without doubt..GAME CHANGING.. You can hate all you want.. You can stay with Home Studio if it suites your needs - JUST LIKE I WILL STAY WITH SONAR PRODUCER UNTIL IT STOPS MEETING MY NEEDS..

The fact is that Pro Tools like it or not is the de facto studio standard - and opening it up to the world of Non-Avid hardware no matter how difficult, buggy, or dare I say smooth the transition is - it will be a force to be reckoned with..

So please , spare me the "My ball is prettier/better then your ball" commentary and the attitude about discussing and considering it  - That's what we do on messageboards... here in the software sub-forum... we discuss software developments.. I think this qualifies as a significant one - or do you not agree? No one is threating you or saying your girlfriend is ugly....

sometimes things never change around here...guess that's why I am not around all that much anymore 

Loving the look of X1 - see ya'll at upgrade time

peace