"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock

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"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock


"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock

https://soundcloud.com/ba.../bb06-waiting-to-shine


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    bapu
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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/16 12:36:56 (permalink)
    Nice one bats.

    Raise the bass. <----- very minor crit. Maybe just personal taste.
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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/16 18:18:40 (permalink)
    Few people anymore play the wah-wah pedal like you do.  I could listen to you all day.  Didn't you just rebuild your studio?  I hope this came from it so I can look forward to hearing more.  Kudos.

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/16 18:54:19 (permalink)
    You have a relationship with that instrument... I really like the bass too.  
    I'm pretty sure that if I was a chick I'd be throwing my panties.

    post edited by The Band19 - 2013/01/16 18:56:44

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/16 19:56:58 (permalink)
    I listened to all three songs and was super impressed.  Your guitar skill is impressive.  I'm not a pro (yet) with Sonar, but I know what sounds good.

    What I liked:

    1. There was always an interesting and hard-driving bass line that kept things in motion and kept my foot tapping.
    2. The mix was clean enough that I could pick out every instrument.  No muddiness at all, even with the sound effects.
    3. You used varying guitar sounds with each song.  (clean, dirty, nasty, etc.)
    4. You used, but never overused your sound effects and made great use of the stereo field.
    5. Great vocals.


    If I had a CD full of music like this it would be exactly the type of thing I would listen to in my car on the highway.  I don't have anything bad to say.

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/16 20:13:56 (permalink)
    Once again I had to listen twice,, wow what a difference between your stuff and a lot of stuff posted here. I just listened to a bunch of other songs posted here and yours just jumps out of the speakers miles above the rest.. great work as always.

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/17 19:54:48 (permalink)
    Starbuckle





    If I had a CD full of music like this it would be exactly the type of thing I would listen to in my car on the highway.  I don't have anything bad to say.

    Duke

    He has an album full of this stuff. Go get it! 

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/17 20:20:40 (permalink)
    Just went back in for another listen -- Good God Almighty is that good!  So are the other two tracks there.  You not only have a wonderful tone and feel but the music is very inventive.  There's not a false move in any of those tracks...bass...drums...perfect.  :)
    Allan
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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/17 20:29:37 (permalink)
    I don't think you have to wait any longer. Shining like a 100000 watts.

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/17 20:37:25 (permalink)
    ABull


    Just went back in for another listen -- Good God Almighty is that good!  So are the other two tracks there.  You not only have a wonderful tone and feel but the music is very inventive.  There's not a false move in any of those tracks...bass...drums...perfect.   :)

    Allan


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    post edited by ABull - 2013/01/17 20:40:00
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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 00:53:18 (permalink)
     Geezuz... I love this! Forget Van Halen.  It's got Zappa written all over it. 
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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 09:28:54 (permalink)


    Nice and sleazy!!!

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 10:38:16 (permalink)
    Wow...that's really well done. 

    Real drums or samples? Thought I detected a bit of machine gun snare (though it's really minor) but I could be wrong...
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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 10:41:08 (permalink)
    Great stuff Bat.  I really like how you get the drums to popppp.

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 16:40:39 (permalink)

    bapu
    thanks for listening and commenting.

    well, bass level: i happen to dig the bass level right where it is.
    it seems to translate best of all, right where it is.
    but everybody's playback system is different.

    i typically experiment with dozens of different bass settings on every mix, that's the thing i spend the most time on.
    it's hard to find the perfect common ground (hard for me, anyway, with limited gear and partially-treated mix environ)

    i know i can always improve my bass (low end) mixing though.....
    i will try to make it louder, without messing with the drums, maybe carving a bit more on the drums, instead of boosting bass.
    that kind of thing.
    i'm always up for the experiment, still so much to learn.





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    thanks lynn

    i do like wah.
    LOL

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    and yes, i did rebuild the studio when i moved into the new (old) house.
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    i think the stuff i'm getting now, is even more dialed in. at least, that's the hope.

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 16:43:59 (permalink)

    the band19
    relationship with the instrument........
    heheh

    glad i don't play organ.

    LOL

    thanks man......

    a bunch of chix came by the other day, and gave me this:



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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 16:45:05 (permalink)



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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 16:48:11 (permalink)

    starbuckle
    thanks for listening, and commenting so thoroughly.
    i'm glad you enjoyed it, and picked up on all those things i'm trying to accomplish

    i do have a cd for sale......
    http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/batsbrew

    it's my 2nd album release, the first was on Planet Records, and is now out of print.


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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 16:52:20 (permalink)

    cactus
    thanks so much for the kind words...
    though i have to say, there are quite a few killer productions floating around these parts, that i look up to....

    but i appreciate that all the same.
     
     
    ABull
    thanks allan!
    it's funny you mention the Dan, they were always an influence, mostly because of all the great guitar parts they always featured...
    but were too jazzy for me to ever play along with.
    maybe i learned 'reelin' in the years' note for note, a long time ago....
    but that was it.

    for my stuff, the guitar parts always seem to just flow out, they're pretty easy... 
    but the bass is what i work on the most, trying to cop a vibe and play on time at the same time.....  that's some work!
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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/18 22:41:32 (permalink)
    You're mixes are always impressive.  Everything clear in the mix, great arrangment.

    Oh yea, kickass performace too.   A mix to aspire to.

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/20 20:08:53 (permalink)
    Sailor55

    thanks for checking this one out!

    zappa?!
    i don't know about that...

    but i sure listened to lots of zappa, especially liked the roxy, one size, apostrophe, all that stuff right up to about the 1st couple of vai-involved albums.

    sure miss zappa

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/21 10:18:03 (permalink)

    noisy
    thanks man! sleazy, YES, that's what i was going after.

    greasy, or easy, would have worked just as well too!
    heheh


     

    razorwit
    thanks for checking this one out, glad you liked  it.

    the drums, are toontracks Superior Drummer.
    so, they're real drums, with multiple microphones available, so each mix is unique depending on how your chose the dozens of close mic and room mic and bleed applications.
    technically, they're samples, triggered by midi.
    the snare, i wanted a bit heavy handed, so that's why there's not as much ghosting...
    i wanted it more neanderthalish, so i didn't allow a lot of subtlety

    the program is cool in that, you can choose the velocity of each set of 'beats' in advance....
    if you pull back on the velocity control, those 'machine gun' fills start to sound more like well executed paradiddles instead of solid center of head strikes....

    good ear.


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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/21 10:19:53 (permalink)

    AT
    thanks man.
    the drums, i spent a lot of time working the compression settings of each drum, and i had them running into a LIMITER across the drum buss, so i could push different parts of the kit into the limiter to get them to POP more.
    at least, that was the goal.

    i experiment a lot between mixes, looking for 'magic forumlas'.
    haven't found any yet!
    :)


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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/21 10:25:02 (permalink)

    daryl
    i appreciate the words of encouragement.
    thanks

    i did mostly L-C-R mixing on this one.

    but, there are always parts of the mix i end up sliding from hard right or left to somewhere inbetween that and center.

    i can HEAR them better in those positions, though a lot of pros say that this is unnecessary..... pick a side and stay there!
    LOL

    it's easy to find separation putting guitar parts hard right and left, as long as they are balanced riff-wise, tone wise, more so than level wise, i've found....

    i'm still trying to figure out whether or not i like most background vocals centered, or spread out randomly, or hard panned.


    i listen to a lot of old Rundgren, and he'd take all of his backgrounds all the way over to one side, if he had a guitar or keyboard part that was doing something similar to the background vocals, and have that all the way over on the other side...
    so that influenced mix decisions a lot, trying to find clarity with radical movement, but not DISTRACTING movement!

    that's the judgement call i often miss, and don't realize till i walk away from a mix long enough to forget what i did, then listen to it basically from scratch, to decide if i like the decisions i made before.
    if i hate it, i start over....
    but if it works, i'm done.


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    "The Time is Magic"
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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/21 12:29:56 (permalink)
    Great stuff batsbrew - guitars sound brilliant but I wouldn't expect anything less :)
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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/22 12:45:55 (permalink)
    daryl1968


    thanks a lot for listening and commenting....
    glad you enjoyed this one

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/22 12:55:34 (permalink)
    Great tune.  The only thing I can add is that I really loved the interaction between the guitar and vocals in the chorus. 

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/23 13:02:19 (permalink)
    doosie

    thanks brian.....

    that chorus/guitar call and response stuff, it just HAD to be there!

    LOL

    i mean, i actually heard those guitar parts in my head as i was singing the chorus tracks before i tracked the solo guitar.
    it was integral.


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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/23 15:33:39 (permalink)
    As observed by Lynn there is no lack of shining talent displayed here.

    Nice one Bat the mix sounds nice and solid here, great tone and I do like wah used that way.

    Thanks for shining your light here

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    Re:"Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock 2013/01/23 16:17:35 (permalink)
    Very cool Bats... I do love a shuffle...
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