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2011/03/06 17:27:31 (permalink)

smart tool? SOLVED!

     ok i think i got me a bug...(figgered i would)  smart tool locks up on me and will do nothing when editing in PRV.   if i re-start sonar it comes back but not for long.  (it's a wonder for the short time it works)  running X1 64 bit(new install) am i missing something? or am i just waiting for X1b?

thx

chuck
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    HumbleNoise
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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 17:38:58 (permalink)
    Never had a problem here but I've heard others have. Hopefully X1b "fixes everything."

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 17:49:02 (permalink)
    Im using smart tool all day, never seen this issue..call jim!
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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 18:40:46 (permalink)
    Nope...sorry ebabes, ol pal.  Smart Tool works fine here (and is the best thing about X1 IMHO).

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 20:11:01 (permalink)
    smart tool is smarter than me here.

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 20:56:36 (permalink)
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         ok i think i got me a bug...(figgered i would)  smart tool locks up on me and will do nothing when editing in PRV.   if i re-start sonar it comes back but not for long.  (it's a wonder for the short time it works)  running X1 64 bit(new install) am i missing something? or am i just waiting for X1b?

    thx

    chuck

    Sorry - haven't seen any issues like that. How do you mean "locks up"? Does the HUD stop working?
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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 21:22:40 (permalink)
    no the HUD opens and i can highlight the buttons but none of the tools work


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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 21:35:39 (permalink)
    ababes..have you tryd using the short cuts??do they not work as well??..i wish i could tell you what they are but there in the help file..try and use the shortcuts in the t.v. and see if that works ..if not than there may be a issue that non of us can solve

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 21:42:53 (permalink)
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    ababes..have you tryd using the short cuts??do they not work as well??..i wish i could tell you what they are but there in the help file..try and use the shortcuts in the t.v. and see if that works ..if not than there may be a issue that non of us can solve


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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 21:48:14 (permalink)
    ebabes13


    no the HUD opens and i can highlight the buttons but none of the tools work
    Hi ebabes,

    I have a cowbell part in a song I was trying to edit the velocities on. I could change the velocity but there was no audible difference. Don't know if you were seeing something similar. Sometimes a quick save/restart of the project will fix little hiccups like this.

    A couple more weeks until the patch then it will be the X1 b's knees. ;)

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 21:59:33 (permalink)
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    ababes..have you tryd using the short cuts??do they not work as well??..i wish i could tell you what they are but there in the help file..try and use the shortcuts in the t.v. and see if that works ..if not than there may be a issue that non of us can solve


    with no dissrespect to anyone: Its a custom built system
    and should be supported by the vendor..

    so what are you saying???should we not help??what if its something simple?what if the shortcuts work,then he realizes he may have over looked something..and life is good..should we turn our back on every custom built system?..with no disrespect to you startekh but what are you saying?(and please dont get me wrong..i look at you as one of the most helpful people on this forum..and smart as hell too..i respect your opinions very highly)so when you say leave this,im curious  :)

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 22:22:09 (permalink)
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    chuckebaby


    ababes..have you tryd using the short cuts??do they not work as well??..i wish i could tell you what they are but there in the help file..try and use the shortcuts in the t.v. and see if that works ..if not than there may be a issue that non of us can solve


    with no dissrespect to anyone: Its a custom built system
    and should be supported by the vendor..

    so what are you saying???should we not help??what if its something simple?what if the shortcuts work,then he realizes he may have over looked something..and life is good..should we turn our back on every custom built system?..with no disrespect to you startekh but what are you saying?(and please dont get me wrong..i look at you as one of the most helpful people on this forum..and smart as hell too..i respect your opinions very highly)so when you say leave this,im curious  :)


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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 22:32:13 (permalink)
    geez...no big deal guys, just askin'
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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/06 23:02:04 (permalink)
    Ebabes13, I noticed one time my tools weren't working either. The fix is rather embarrassing but it might/could be the same situation. 

    If the notes in the track are not selected, the tools do nothing,
    as soon as the notes are laso'd or top track dragged and selected see if the tools work then.

    Sometimes it's the simple things.  Happens to me sometimes.

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 00:44:08 (permalink)
    no that wasn't it, but thx
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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 01:47:49 (permalink)
    Did you install X1a? Not sure if it would make any difference for you. It sounds like a bug for sure. Can you check out the formula to reproduce it? For example, a particular project, or particular synth etc. Or does it always happen?
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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 09:41:50 (permalink)
    i just installed X1 a few days ago...is the 1a fix part of that or do i need to install that now?  the problem has been happening with different synths.   ond only in piano roll view.(which i know has it's share of problems.)   i can work around it if need be until X1b comes out. 

    thx

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 09:46:50 (permalink)
    Yes, install 1a and you can at least eliminate that as a problem.

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 09:48:51 (permalink)
    Yes, install 1a and you can at least eliminate that as a problem.


    will do... thx

         chuck

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 10:00:01 (permalink)
    And by the by StarTekh, ol pal, Jim at StudioCat provides excellent support on all his machines and sample products...excellent!

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 10:03:58 (permalink)
    I'm not one to give up so I looked all over for anything that might be optional.

    In the PRV view the following are checked on my setup.

    Edit - Notes/Velocity
    View - Show/Hide Track Pane, Show/Hide Controller Pane, Show Vertical Gridlines
    Notes - Show Notes,Show Velocity Tails, Velocity on Active Track only
    Controllers - Show Controller Handles
    Tracks - Nothing is checked on my setup.


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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 10:19:13 (permalink)
    I read the original post again and see that smart tool works ok for short period of time. Does it quit working on a new project too? 

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 10:34:30 (permalink)
    And by the by StarTekh, ol pal, Jim at StudioCat provides excellent support on all his machines and sample products...excellent!


    yes he does... the best!  I figured since it was sunday night i would try all you helpful souls first.   will be calling the man today

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 10:39:56 (permalink)
    I read the original post again and see that smart tool works ok for short period of time. Does it quit working on a new project too?


    yeah i started a new project in PRV just to see...same thing

    thx

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 11:21:12 (permalink)
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    And by the by StarTekh, ol pal, Jim at StudioCat provides excellent support on all his machines and sample products...excellent!


    yes he does... the best!  I figured since it was sunday night i would try all you helpful souls first.   will be calling the man today


    Definitely give Jim a call.  His support is second to none and he stands behind his work.  He even helped me with an issue I had with Superior Drummer and he actually did that on a Sunday evening!

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 11:22:07 (permalink)
    again not to offend any one !! when I build a system Its ready to go, should there be any issue, my clients are instructed to call me 24/7, its understood when I build for you, you will not have, others do work on my builds and I extend the same to other builders, people can buy a shopping list from me for 100.00 that any good local shop can build and it will runn very well. But Here Its FREE as is my time 35 yrs in the bizz, this is open Free support fourm.

     
    You're not offending me in the least...
    Today is the first I've heard about the problem.
    Don't you think it's a little premature to assume we've done something wrong?  
    The OP will call at his convenience... and the problem will be addressed.

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 11:28:22 (permalink)

    I have found the smart tool to be incredibly sluggish and slow to change states.

    It just sort of waits a bit before it shows me how smart it is... meanwhile I'm sitting there thinking... "I used to just go pow with a hot key and it changed immediately."

    There's something funky about the smart tool.

    Good Luck!

    best regards,
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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 15:32:53 (permalink)
    OP installed X1a patch... problem solved

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 15:36:53 (permalink)

    So, it wasn't his system?

    Why is everything always blamed on the system?

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    Re:smart tool? 2011/03/07 15:54:00 (permalink)
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    I have found the smart tool to be incredibly sluggish and slow to change states.

    It just sort of waits a bit before it shows me how smart it is... meanwhile I'm sitting there thinking... "I used to just go pow with a hot key and it changed immediately."

    There's something funky about the smart tool.

    Good Luck!

    best regards,
    mike


    I wonder if part of the sluggishness is this: the cursor often doesn't change until the mouse is moved. I've noticed this in many programs, including X1. I don't know whether it's a Windows thing or specific to particular programs. Part of the function callback should be a cursor refresh, but it may still require mouse movement.

    Can you give a specific, simple and repeatable example of the sluggishness? If anyone else can reproduce it, we should log it as a bug ASAP so it gets fixed.

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