ccchhh
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Intel DP35DP and SATA?
Hi- I'm trying to set up this mobo with a SATA boot drive. This requires installing the RAID drivers, which come on a floppy. Unfortunately, the DP35DP does not support a floppy drive. Does anyone know how to overcome this problem? Should I just use IDE mode? I would prefer to be able to take advantage of the SATA features. Thanks for any ideas. Charley
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 10:07:21
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Why would a mobo manufacturer of a mobo without floppy support supply their drivers on a floppy?
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 10:10:20
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Burn them on a disk, use a USB stick, or use the network to install those drivers. You want to run SATA if you can, IDE is getting slowwww
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ccchhh
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 11:09:37
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ORIGINAL: Twigman Why would a mobo manufacturer of a mobo without floppy support supply their drivers on a floppy? Why would a mobo manufacturer of a mobo without floppy support supply their drivers on a floppy? Strange, isn't it? I suppose the board is really intended for users of Vista, which incorporates the drivers.
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ccchhh
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 11:22:23
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ORIGINAL: KevinD Burn them on a disk, use a USB stick, or use the network to install those drivers. You want to run SATA if you can, IDE is getting slowwww Thanks. Unfortunately none of these approaches work, for various reasons. The only solutions I have found reported as working are to use a USB floppy drive- which may work or not, depending on the specific drive, or to install from an ISO image of the OS which includes the new drivers. THe former method seems to be a crap shoot, and the latter involves new software and a complex process which intimidates me. I am considering giving up on XP and installing Vista.
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 11:51:58
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On Vista, I just used a sandisk microSD stick thingee to install the raid drivers. Vista installation is almost too easy...
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 13:11:54
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I was able to install XP on a DP35DP last week, after a lot of frustration. I figured out that I couldn't install XP from an IDE optical drive - blue screen from the point where XP is copying files, since there were no drivers for IDE drives of any kind. Intel wisely supplied a floppy disk for a motherboard which can't support a floppy drive. I read about the re-imaging and the USB stick. Installing XP from a SATA optical drive did the trick. After installing the drivers from Intel's driver disk, I was able to re-integrate the PATA optical drive and all is well. We decided to stick with the DG33FB for this and other reasons for near-term builds (these are for audio-related use, but not SONAR or any other DAW). After experiencing this, and hearing a lot of trouble with P35-based motherboards and various PCI cards including UAD-1s, I'm glad I stuck with a Gigabyte GA965P-SA3 motherboard for my new Q6600 build for SONAR 7 and other audio tasks. I may have sacrificed a tiny bit of FSB speed for a mountain of stability (so-far).
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 15:32:10
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This is a typical problem of technology outpacing itself. Luckily, I am hearing rumors that the next Microsoft Operating sytem to be called MS Vastness (code named blundring behemouth) will support telepathic interfacing, thus obviating the need for any drives whatsoever to load drivers. Drivers will be shipped in the form of a loose-leaf notebook containing thousands of pages of 1's and 0's which you can simply read while Vastness installs from a magic crsystal suspended over your computer reading your mind for the contents of the notebook. The only thing holding up the release is that Microsoft has yet to work out the system the installation crystal uses to incinerate software pirates.
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ccchhh
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 15:44:13
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Well, shoot. Had heard only good things about this board. I hadn't read of any issues with the UAD-1. I've also got an RME PCI card in the system and an IDE optical drive, so I guess I'm in for nothing but trouble. I'm using a program called nLite to build an ISO image disk with the RAID drivers incorporated. If that doesn't work, I suppose I'll dump the board and try something else. Thanks for the help, Charley
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 15:55:28
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ORIGINAL: ccchhh .. Had heard only good things about this board. ... Actually, it seems to be a great board. I built another computer with it, and it's performing well in software development. Over at the UAD forum, there are lots of reports of problems with various P35-based boards when used with UAD-1 cards and XP. Maybe this will be better with Vista. I'm usually ready to join the bleeding edge, but I think I did the right thing (having two UAD-1 PCI and one RME PCI, like you) by staying with the 965-based board. I'll probably jump to Vista when it feels right, too.
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ccchhh
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/03 23:52:28
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This may be of interest to anyone experiencing similar difficulties. I was able to load XP on a SATA drive in an Intel DP35DP based system using an IDE optical drive in the following fashion. In the BIOS, I selected "RAID" as the drive mode, and selected the CD drive as the boot drive. On another system, I copied the RAID files from the Intel RAID driver floppy disk to a different location. Using the freeware program nLite, I made an ISO image of XP. During the process nLite prompts for location of drivers. It is only necessary to point to the file containing the complete contents of the RAID floppy disk; nLite takes the .inf files that it needs. The last stage of nLite is to burn the ISO image to a CD. I then booted from the ISO image CD and XP loaded. When prompted, I partitioned and formatted the SATA drive. Windows then finished loading in the normal way. Best of Luck.
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/04 06:40:11
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Actually I was browsing around for m/boards and came across this particular one! IMO it's not one I would buy.
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/07 23:20:03
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After tearing out all of my hair trying to configure a DP35DP with SATA, I found this information from a link on Intel's site to a listing on Microsoft's site. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/916196/ It appears that there are only three floppy drives that are compatible with the XP installer-- all USB.
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ccchhh
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/08 21:25:21
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It appears that there are only three floppy drives that are compatible with the XP installer-- all USB. And good luck finding one of them.
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/09 21:15:02
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I have to really thank you for your post: ORIGINAL: ccchhh This may be of interest to anyone experiencing similar difficulties. I was able to load XP on a SATA drive in an Intel DP35DP based system using an IDE optical drive in the following fashion. In the BIOS, I selected "RAID" as the drive mode, and selected the CD drive as the boot drive. On another system, I copied the RAID files from the Intel RAID driver floppy disk to a different location. Using the freeware program nLite, I made an ISO image of XP. During the process nLite prompts for location of drivers. It is only necessary to point to the file containing the complete contents of the RAID floppy disk; nLite takes the .inf files that it needs. The last stage of nLite is to burn the ISO image to a CD. I then booted from the ISO image CD and XP loaded. When prompted, I partitioned and formatted the SATA drive. Windows then finished loading in the normal way. Best of Luck. I created an ISO using nLite that included the necessary drivers for the DP35DP's SATA controller, and removed a bunch of the Windows crap that I didn't want or need. It worked perfectly, and reduced the Windows footprint significantly! So, thanks again for the great suggestion.
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ccchhh
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2007/10/09 22:04:26
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Great! Glad it worked. Charles
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/02/04 14:46:22
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Hi, I saw your post when researching how to build my PC with this board. I arrived at the nlite solution as well. But, what I am not sure of is the location of "SATA 0". Does it matter to which SATA (internal) connector I plug in my Hard Drive? I can't find that documentation anywhere. Also, I'm not using RAID, I just want the SATA bus for my Hard Drives. From what I have found, all I need to do is enable "AHCI", which I think is the same as enabling RAID. Anyway, any help you can give me on which SATA connector to use would be great. thanks! ramon raz1313@grejfilms.com ORIGINAL: ccchhh This may be of interest to anyone experiencing similar difficulties. I was able to load XP on a SATA drive in an Intel DP35DP based system using an IDE optical drive in the following fashion. In the BIOS, I selected "RAID" as the drive mode, and selected the CD drive as the boot drive. On another system, I copied the RAID files from the Intel RAID driver floppy disk to a different location. Using the freeware program nLite, I made an ISO image of XP. During the process nLite prompts for location of drivers. It is only necessary to point to the file containing the complete contents of the RAID floppy disk; nLite takes the .inf files that it needs. The last stage of nLite is to burn the ISO image to a CD. I then booted from the ISO image CD and XP loaded. When prompted, I partitioned and formatted the SATA drive. Windows then finished loading in the normal way. Best of Luck.
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/02/04 14:52:07
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"I'm trying to set up this mobo with a SATA boot drive. This requires installing the RAID drivers, " I've been considering one of these boards... but the OP statement confuses me... I've never built a SATA system. Do you have to use RAID drivers for eery SATA system? Or is the OP post contextual to someone who wants to use RAID? The only time I've used RAID arrays we booted (or mounted) a system disk and then used Raid systems as media servers. I get this board and want to use 2 seperate drives... Do I need a floppy drive? thanks, mike
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/02/04 16:03:31
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ORIGINAL: raz1313 ....But, what I am not sure of is the location of "SATA 0". Does it matter to which SATA (internal) connector I plug in my Hard Drive? I can't find that documentation anywhere..... well, buy me some glasses! I just saw the tiny writing on the mobo, identifying SATA-0, SATA-1,... I'll post back once I install XP and all my other goodies. -r
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/02/04 18:38:11
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ORIGINAL: KevinD Burn them on a disk, use a USB stick, or use the network to install those drivers. You want to run SATA if you can, IDE is getting slowwww Who knows how to use a USB stick to update and boot from ?
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/02/04 19:31:53
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Use Nlite to slipstream the SATA drivers into a new Windows install CD. It's a lot easier than it sounds...
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/02/04 21:41:23
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After going through this build, the nLite solution is by far the best. Very quick and self-explanatory. One thing that is important to note is that even though your drives will come up working without installing the drivers, they will be operating in IDE mode. You can verify this somewhere in the installation (I forgot where exactly), but after re-installing including the drivers via nLite, the drives are recognized and function using the SATA protocol.
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/05/13 07:59:23
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I've been so stupid to throw out my floppy disk, so could one of you guys please give me the .inf files..
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/05/13 08:32:56
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I am not understanding this either. XP understands SATA. You shouldn't need drivers to load XP on a SATA drive. If its an array then yes you will need drivers.
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Jim Roseberry
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/05/13 10:52:19
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I am not understanding this either. XP understands SATA. You shouldn't need drivers to load XP on a SATA drive. If its an array then yes you will need drivers. FWIW, In a few cases (including this one), you need to slip-stream the SATA drivers into the Windows install CD. Quite painless thanks to Nlite...
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/05/13 11:02:56
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What a bummer. Thank goodness I didn't.
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/05/13 11:08:54
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You shouldn't have to load RAID drivers to use a SATA drive unless you want to use it as a RAID drive. As for not having a floppy.... who uses those anymore? You could use a CD-R or a Flash drive or pull it from the web.
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kallberg
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/05/13 18:02:00
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My problem is that I don't have the .inf file(s) and for that reason I can't finish the slipstream...
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Jim Roseberry
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/05/13 18:04:39
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My problem is that I don't have the .inf file(s) and for that reason I can't finish the slipstream... Do you have access to the Internet? I'm assuming you do if you're here.  Go to the Intel website and download the drivers.
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kallberg
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RE: Intel DP35DP and SATA?
2008/05/13 18:07:27
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All I can find is some wierd .exe files. atm I am not at the computer with the Intel mobo so I can't use them.
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