Voxengo Crunchessor 2.0

If you don't mind reporting back after you test this out I'd love to hear what you think. I too, have V1 and would like to know the differences. It seems they've given it a complete overhaul.

Thanks

I purchased it this morning after trying out the demo. It's hard to describe in words, but it has a cool vibe to it - sort of a late 70s or early 80s FM rock sound.

I paid $39.99 because I didn't have the previous version - it's on sale at the moment. I've used it on vocals and acoustic guitars, and I like it.

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Well most of us don't have it yet It just came out. I do have the first version but that isn't going to help you is it?. LOL

They have released an updated patch to fix SC in sonar , got it ??
aLSO THERE IS A SECOND .PDF NOW FOR THE NEW STYLE PLUGGS THAT EXPLAINS ALLOT OF STUFF THAT IS GLOBAL TO ALL THE NEW STYLE VERSIONS . ( ROUTING AND PRESETS AS WELL ARE NOT IN THE INDIVIDUAL MANUALS ).

SORRY for yelling!! caps lock on !!!

I used side chain in Sonar 6 with the surround workaround. Here it is...bones and all.....

1. Create a surround bus in your project (right click on the bus pane and "Insert Surround Bus")
2. Call the bus something recognizable, like "crunchessor sidechain"
3. Go to your programme track pane. This is the track that's going to get ducked. Set the output to our "crunchessor sidechain" bus we created in Step 1.
4. Open the surround panner for your programme (by right-clicking on the track pane's surround panner and selecting "Open Surround Panner")
5. In there, make sure the channels L and R have numbers 0.0 next to them. Do this by changing the angle, focus, and width. It should be so by default.. but just in case, here are the settings I needed: Angle 0.0, Focus 100.0, Width 60.0
6. Go to your trigger's track pane. This will be the track that will be triggering the ducking. Set the output to our "crunchessor sidechain" bus.
7. In the trigger's surround panner, make sure you get the numbers next to Ls and Rs to 0.0. Do this by setting the correct Width in the panner. I set my width to 240.5 (I couldn't hit 240 :-) ), Angle to 0.0, Focus to 100.0. Make sure the crosshair is still up on top. You can also get the Ls and Rs levels to 0.0 by using the settings Angle -180, Width 120, Focus 100, but then the triggers will be swapped: the left trigger channel will trigger the ducking of the right programme channel and vice versa. You don't want that.
8. Go to our bus, "crunchessor sidechain". Insert Crunchessor as an FX bin.
9. Open the Crunchessor control. You will notice there are 4 tabs with channel names and a fifth tab called Surround Bridge. Those 4 tabs are four separate instances of Crunchessor.
10. In the Surround bridge, use these settings:
(Plugin #): 1 (Left input): Left (Right input): Left Surround (Linked): Yes (Enable): Yes
(Plugin #): 2 (Left input): Right (Right input): Right Surround (Linked): Yes (Enable): Yes
(Plugin #): 3 and 4 - leave everything unchanged except for (Linked): No (Enable): No. This will turn off the 3rd and 4th instance of the plugin.
11. Now go to the first tab, which should read "L / Ls" (in that order, NOT "Ls / L"). Use this setting for the Crunchessor's sidechain: SC: R. This setting will propagate to the second instance of Crunchessor ("R / Rs"). It means that your trigger is the trigger channel you have panned to the surround back, in step 7.
12. Set up all your settings as you wish. True stereo ducking.
13. One more problem: we still have the trigger in the surround back. Even if you just mix down to stereo, the back signal will leak down to your front mix. We need to cut it out in the signal chain right after Crunchessor. To do this we will use Sonalksis FreeG (it's a free download. I hope you won't mind this advertisement, Aleksey), or any other plugin which can be used to mute (not turn down.. mute) audio. Insert this plugin as the next FX bin after Crunchessor.
14. In the Surround Bridge for FreeG, turn off all instances except for the one that's got Left Surround and Right Surround routed to it.
15. In the Ls / Rs tab, use the Mute button to cut out the trigger signal in the surround back.

thankls for the INPUT !


(but isnt that a BIT complicated??? .....)

ORIGINAL: info@tomflair.com

just found out mayself that id doesnt work - at least dantarbill had already reported it to voxengo....

thanks to all the others - for being soooo supportive

Aleksey already has 2.1 out to address the sidechaining thing. In SONAR 7, it will now expose three additional stereo pairs as sidechain inputs. In Cruchessor (assuming you are on a stereo track), you go to the Routing panel and select C and D as IN3 and IN4 respectively (at the top under Input Routing) and then assign C and D as Keysignal Sources (toward the bottom of the page) for channels A and B. Then, anything you Send to Cruchessor(Input 2) (in SONAR) will show up Cruchessor in the IN3 and IN4 inputs and get routed via C & D to the sidechain inputs of the main (A & B) signal path.

This is perhaps, more byzantine than it needs to be, but it allows for a lot more flexibility for all of Aleksey's plugs going forward.

hello - thanks for the explanation ;-) ill try to do my best - (and update to 2.1)

cheers

ORIGINAL: rdolmat

ORIGINAL: info@tomflair.com

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Wow...you're patient.

a full 45 minutes in between posts!

your quite cocky for having just about 10 more posts than i do

ORIGINAL: deleter47

I used side chain in Sonar 6 with the surround workaround. Here it is...bones and all.....

1. Create a surround bus in your project (right click on the bus pane and "Insert Surround Bus")
2. Call the bus something recognizable, like "crunchessor sidechain"
3. Go to your programme track pane. This is the track that's going to get ducked. Set the output to our "crunchessor sidechain" bus we created in Step 1.
4. Open the surround panner for your programme (by right-clicking on the track pane's surround panner and selecting "Open Surround Panner")
5. In there, make sure the channels L and R have numbers 0.0 next to them. Do this by changing the angle, focus, and width. It should be so by default.. but just in case, here are the settings I needed: Angle 0.0, Focus 100.0, Width 60.0
6. Go to your trigger's track pane. This will be the track that will be triggering the ducking. Set the output to our "crunchessor sidechain" bus.
7. In the trigger's surround panner, make sure you get the numbers next to Ls and Rs to 0.0. Do this by setting the correct Width in the panner. I set my width to 240.5 (I couldn't hit 240 :-) ), Angle to 0.0, Focus to 100.0. Make sure the crosshair is still up on top. You can also get the Ls and Rs levels to 0.0 by using the settings Angle -180, Width 120, Focus 100, but then the triggers will be swapped: the left trigger channel will trigger the ducking of the right programme channel and vice versa. You don't want that.
8. Go to our bus, "crunchessor sidechain". Insert Crunchessor as an FX bin.
9. Open the Crunchessor control. You will notice there are 4 tabs with channel names and a fifth tab called Surround Bridge. Those 4 tabs are four separate instances of Crunchessor.
10. In the Surround bridge, use these settings:
(Plugin #): 1 (Left input): Left (Right input): Left Surround (Linked): Yes (Enable): Yes
(Plugin #): 2 (Left input): Right (Right input): Right Surround (Linked): Yes (Enable): Yes
(Plugin #): 3 and 4 - leave everything unchanged except for (Linked): No (Enable): No. This will turn off the 3rd and 4th instance of the plugin.
11. Now go to the first tab, which should read "L / Ls" (in that order, NOT "Ls / L"). Use this setting for the Crunchessor's sidechain: SC: R. This setting will propagate to the second instance of Crunchessor ("R / Rs"). It means that your trigger is the trigger channel you have panned to the surround back, in step 7.
12. Set up all your settings as you wish. True stereo ducking.
13. One more problem: we still have the trigger in the surround back. Even if you just mix down to stereo, the back signal will leak down to your front mix. We need to cut it out in the signal chain right after Crunchessor. To do this we will use Sonalksis FreeG (it's a free download. I hope you won't mind this advertisement, Aleksey), or any other plugin which can be used to mute (not turn down.. mute) audio. Insert this plugin as the next FX bin after Crunchessor.
14. In the Surround Bridge for FreeG, turn off all instances except for the one that's got Left Surround and Right Surround routed to it.
15. In the Ls / Rs tab, use the Mute button to cut out the trigger signal in the surround back.

I would consider this an excellent advertisement for SONAR 7.

i have to admit that i found it also horrible in first place - but after a few looks i got used to it....actually now it doesnt bother me :-)

PS: sounds great

ORIGINAL: deleter47

Have you seen the first one?? I'll take this one over that anyday.

Goodness yes. And that was just plain boring and I know it'll be much easier to dial in the results you want with the new GUI.

Since it was time for a facelift of his plugs, I was simply hoping he'd possibly revert back to a gem like this:



That's just plain sexy. But I've made my point. Aleksey makes great plugs no matter what they look like.

I really liket that compressor... downloaded the demo a few dayz ago and it's a great allarounder..... and i also like the new GUI. Easy to read.

-Alxi-