How does MC5 measure up?

Good Morning,

For those of you wondering just how different Music Creator 5 is from Music Creators past, check out the chart below:

Music Creator Comparison Chart

Best,
Kate

it worked for me, Rob - it's a pdf that opens in the browser - she may have fixed the link, tho since she edited after you posted.

Simple instrument tracks have also been omitted. One assumes that instrument tracks count as 1 MIDI + 1 AUDIO toward the track limit?

My MC3 came with Edirol (and Dreamstation). Does this have Edirol or a similar multi-sampled VST? I didn't see one on comparison chart.

Also: the EQ is a feature available and built into each track?

Thank you.

ORIGINAL: No How

My MC3 came with Edirol (and Dreamstation). Does this have Edirol or a similar multi-sampled VST? I didn't see one on comparison chart.

Also: the EQ is a feature available and built into each track?

Thank you.

Rick - it has TTS-1 which is a GM2 softsynth (not sampled, but Edirol isn't either - they're both synths).

and Samara answered the per track EQ question above - yes MC5 does have per track EQ.

ORIGINAL: Beagle

ORIGINAL: No How

My MC3 came with Edirol (and Dreamstation). Does this have Edirol or a similar multi-sampled VST? I didn't see one on comparison chart.

Also: the EQ is a feature available and built into each track?

Thank you.

Rick - it has TTS-1 which is a GM2 softsynth (not sampled, but Edirol isn't either - they're both synths).

and Samara answered the per track EQ question above - yes MC5 does have per track EQ.

Thanks for the info.

The edirol i have has drums, asian instruments, all kinds of bass,....and it's a synth? wow.

ORIGINAL: Beagle

yes, Edirol VSC and Roland TTS-1 are both true GM2 synths. there are no samples - all sounds are generated.

Far for me to disagree with a guy with 18,000 + posts, but I don't think the idea of a synth being both GM and sample based are mutually exclusive. In fact, the original GM hardware synths from Roland were all based on the standard Roland sample set (the old Sound Canvas series). I think the VSC (Virtual Sound Canvas) and the TTS-1 are both sample based. Otherwise, how would they create an oboe or viola, albeit not the best sounding ones? No, they are both sample-based synths, and GM. I'm pretty sure about this, having dealt with sample-based synths (hardware and software) for close to 20 years.

I'm guessing... the notion that the X-Gear software included with MC5,[which is listed under beginners software] may, somehow be any different than what [IK] has given away for free and is now bundling with most of their products, has been resolved or answered? NO extra special added amps just for MC5?

No Amplitude2, Jimi Hendrix, or Metal amps included like pictured on [IK's] site and Kates post which BTW... shows an icon for IK's Stomp I/O device in the upper right corner! Those amps pictured are obviously full versions being hosted in X-Gear

No. if you've already purchased the mp3 encoder then you just have to re-authorize it from the file they sent you once you install MC5 (from what I've read on the forum). you don't have to pay for it again.

and if you've lost the authorization file, they will send it to you again if you contact them.

Guys, if you own an older version of MC with edirol and dreamstation, they will still show up in a newer version of MC, just to not uninstall the synths.

Also on the synth sample issue, most GM sets are sample based as was Microsoft synth GS, the samples are just propriatary in nature.

Nick - I didn't read your posts until I posted this last one -

I will gladly yield my position if you have evidence of TTS-1 being sample based. Everything I've read including what I posted above from cakewalk / Roland states that the sounds are generated.

I have no malice or agenda, I'm only stating my opinion based on the evidence that I have read - if I'm wrong - that's fine I can ALWAYS accept being wrong, - but give me some evidence that says I am.

Hey Beag, no arguement here with you. But i remember a while back mac explaining over at PG that the edirol was based on the same concept as the Microsoftsynth GS it just had a better version of the wavetable sound set and the synth around it to process them. The below is from Roland and PG sites, it explains that the GM sets are sampled from one note and then synthesized to full value. a true synth creats sound from filters and oscillators. But sample based synths creat from sample of various value. A GM set like VSC or TTS uses very small sample and then polishes them with the synth portion of the program, others like sampletank, or Kontact might use a larger more layered sample. Sound fonts are much like this as well, and also vary in depth and layers.

VSC-3 Specifications
• Number of Parts: 16
• Maximum polyphony: 128 (may vary according to your computer's specifications).
• Number of sounds: 546 sounds + 15 drum sets
• Effects: reverb, chorus, delay.
• Supports full control over sound parameters via any external sequencer. Contains a built-in SMF player for playback of Standard MIDI File songs plus playing MIDI tracks from the Internet.
• Incredible sound quality achieved through 16-bit stereo sampling at 44.1kHz. Includes awesome 546 GM/GS compatible sounds and 15 drum sets built right in.
• The VSC-3H features significantly quicker and smoother response during performance. Precise optimized settings can be made to suit your computer's processing power and operating environment.
• Popular SMF player allows real time tempo and key changes to enhance your performance and take advantage the full potential of MIDI.
• New part monitor window for listening to the sound you selected for each part and for muting any part in the same window. Now it's easier than ever to do "music minus one" performances for music lessons and entertainment with just the VSC-3H, without using an external sequencer.
Up to 128-voice polyphony, 16-part, DXi/VST2 plug-ins and stand alone software synthesizers
902 GM2/GS tones and 26 drum sets
Up to 24-bit/96kHz resolution
Reverb, Chorus and Delay effects
TVF filters for fine-tuning of original wavetable sounds
MIDI to WAVE/AIFF file conversion function

You do not need stetting straight, just a bath and a little brushing will do! Radio, it's your turn to wash the dog!!

Actually Beag you are not totally wrong. Wavetable works from the basis of a single note sample, then that note is synthesized to recreate the other notes and tones.


See everyone is happy! Cause we are all right! Cept those who are left!

wimper!

yes - that's a good compromise!!!

that's only an average of over 16.5 posts per day! CJ's is something like 23 posts per day!!