Who else wants a pianoroll with horizontal keyboard?

I am so use to piano rolls being left to right that the above snap shot looks very weird.  

The advantage of left to right is that you can see a lot more of your music.  Especially when it is spanned across a wide screen monitor or a couple displays.  They don't make tall screen monitors, otherwise it might be more useful.  

Give yourself time to learn it the way all big DAW's do it.  It will pay off in the long run.  

If Cakewalk wanted to take the time to make it an option because enough people wanted it that way, I would have no problem with it as long as it didn't change the way that most of us are use to.

I do like how the midi data runs through the piano. It makes me think that being able to scroll the piano around in Sonar's PRV would be kinda nice for editing purposes. Personally, I am so used to left to right that I would probably stick with that.

I think it would be a great idea as a second view option.  

It would be back to being like the original pianoroll from the player pianos. It might make me use the Dimension Pro "Honky Tonk Piano" preset just a little too much though!
Andy

I am another very familar with the vertical keyboard (I have been using that type of view since Cadenza in the 90's). To me the horizontal view looks really weird.
 
It's certainly more logical to have a horizontal keyboard because that's how you view a real keyboard. But I would argue its more logical to track events from left to right. It also ties in with the way track view displays.
 
I am sure many would appreciate the choice.

I'm intrigued! The possibility hadn't occured to me before, but it does look more intuitive from a keyboard player's pov (not that I am one).

Sven

I can't wait until touch screen technology evolves enough to remove the need for all the hassle with external controllers...

That looks pretty nice Lunatique. Too bad it's Mac only. Is it your intent to have a virtual keyboard able to enter notes in the piano roll or just to have the flow run vertically?

I like being able to see the piano keys in the little piano key graphic (very useful and comers in some VST products  already) but NO NO NO to the vertical scrolling PRV. Editing it would be horrible horrible horrrible for me.

This comes up every once in a while (...wicked for one I know has requested it more than once).  but I personally don't care for it.  I like it like it is.

here's one of them.  there are several others.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1766551&high=horizontal+piano

I wonder why it is that half the folks here would be comfortable with a horizontal keyboard and vertically-scrolling MIDI tracks, while no one would suggest that the track or console views would be similarly enhanced by rotating them 90 degrees. Just wondering.

bitflipper


I wonder why it is that half the folks here would be comfortable with a horizontal keyboard and vertically-scrolling MIDI tracks, while no one would suggest that the track or console views would be similarly enhanced by rotating them 90 degrees. Just wondering.

I look at my master keyboard and see the keyboard laid out horizontally. It's only logical then, or rather 'intuitive' to have that same representation in the Piano Roll view. Simply because it is much easier to follow what notes are being played by looking at the virtual keyboard and seeing which keys are being played/triggered.

Now, how would a vertical track view be any better than horizontal ? What relation to real life would that have ? I think this is the question you should be asking. The closest relation for me would be a multi-track tape and that, moves horizontally, therefore it is only logical to have horizontal viewing and scrolling of tracks in my projects.

Personally, if people want vertical track view, let them have it. Let them have any view that helps them in the production process. It is software after all. It is not written in stone.

+1

I like the vertical piano roll idea.

I also like the vertical track view idea combined with the console view 
- so that you see the clips falling like raindrops on to each of the console tracks.

I would not like to see the existing views replaced however, but rather see these as additional views that on the surface would appear to be relatively easy to implement within the code that supports the current format.

Just my recession-adjusted two British pennies

There are times when it would be really helpful.  User selectable would be great. 

I'm of two minds about this, so I guess that means I vote for an option. OTOH, I'm so used to seeing the PRV represented this way that I'm fine with it, and I'd rather see other things addressed first.

-Susan