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About ProChannel randomly doing its thing....
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I hope X1C fixes the prochannel. I opened a project yesterday and prochannel was dead on two tracks. had to reroute to new busses. this happens to me alot.
I really hope someone's listening to this one. It's a show-stopper for me. I fear a lot of folk are not noticing this one. Or maybe it's unique to just a few of us?
Please...would those of you who are using X1 confirm this issue? IS IT STILL HAPPENING??....or is it not?
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
June 30, 11 8:00 AM
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well now that you mention it, I couldn't turn on the EQ power button of the prochannel yesterday for some reason?!?!? it just kind of blipped on and then turned off.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
June 30, 11 8:41 AM
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"Please...would those of you who are using X1 confirm this issue?
IS IT STILL HAPPENING??....or is it not?" OMG!!!! Are you asking people to pay attention? Heck if you can't hear the Pro Channel popping on and off... WHO REALLY CARES??? Use you ears man... use your ears!!! Besides, I can't be browsing my media if I spend all my time staring at the Pro Channel blinky lights. Next time I hope they put a toggle switch on that rascal instead of the push button. Push buttons can go flaky. Seen it happen before. Good Luck! best regards, mike BTW I'm using the Gloss on like 20-40% of my projects these days. edit spelling
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
June 30, 11 9:32 AM
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BTW I'm using the Gloss on like 20-40% of my projects these days.
edit spelling
No, you're not. Yes, you are. No, you're not. Yes, you are. No, you're not. Yes, you are.....
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
June 30, 11 10:35 AM
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
June 30, 11 1:13 PM
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That's just unbelievable, no? I haven't been using it because of the crappy GUI, but.....
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
June 30, 11 7:35 PM
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BUMP!
X1 USERS....
IS THE X1 PRO CHANNEL STILL RANDOMLY DEACTIVATING/CHANGING/NOT WORKING?
I've quoted a couple of users here who say it's still a problem.
True...or no?
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
June 30, 11 8:52 PM
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I haven't seen it happen in the project(s) I'm working on. Probably will now though.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
June 30, 11 10:15 PM
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Has anyone reported this to Cakewalk? Does this have an issue #?
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 01, 11 0:02 PM
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Yes, I can confirm that the Pro Channel in X1B Quick Fix 255, and all previous builds of X1 going back to it's initial release, sometimes ...
A. Will turn off the Compressor, EQ, and Tube Saturation on its own.
B. Will turn on the Compressor, EQ, and Tube Saturation on its own.
C. Will not turn the EQ, Comp, or Tube Saturation on even though the little light says they are activated. For example, you turn Tube Saturation on and no matter how much you Input, Drive, Gain you increase, nothing happens. Same with the Compressor but I've ever had it happen with the EQ.
It seems the larger the project and the longer I have worked on it, the more these problems will creep up.
I'm hoping X1C fixes this.
Thanks,
Bub
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 01, 11 1:32 AM
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I can confirm since the first X1 version that the buttons show ProChannel on, but the dials do nothing - on occasion-. It's a mystery to me
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 01, 11 7:03 AM
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I can confirm that if it is a day with a "Y" in it Pro channel will continue to do its own thing i.e. work or not work dependant on its mood.
"Save as" seem to be the thing that sends it in to a hissy fit for me.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 01, 11 8:28 AM
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I've seen it do it about 5 times here..and all in a couple of projects...others...no...what gives?
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 01, 11 12:53 AM
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Pro Channel is the specific reason I decided to give Roland X1 a go.
And ultimately, it's the specific reason I've abandoned Roland X1.
And still, several months after the release of Roland X1, and multiple "fixes" later, users are reporting on these forums that Pro Channel doesn't work properly all the time.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 01, 11 4:01 PM
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skullsession
Pro Channel is the specific reason I decided to give Roland X1 a go.
And ultimately, it's the specific reason I've abandoned Roland X1.
And still, several months after the release of Roland X1, and multiple "fixes" later, users are reporting on these forums that Pro Channel doesn't work properly all the time.
That about sums it up perfectly for me as well. There was really nothing else in X1 that interested me except for the Pro Channel. If I had a hardware Compressor, EQ, or Tube Preamp that had a bad on/off switch out of the box, I'd return it immediately for a swap or refund. But with this ... we're screwed.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 8:54 AM
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I thought I'd post this example from Bub.
Bub
This is another major problem with Pro Channel besides turning on/off ... sometimes the controls are unresponsive as well until you turn on Saturation. Once you do that everything starts working. This has been happening since X1 was released before any patches. Here's a video with sound. I'll send in a bug report with link to video.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 9:37 AM
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I do not see any of the these behaviors on PC. on my system PC seems to work as it's supposed to.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 9:41 AM
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REALLY? That's interesting.
Soo....what could cause this problem for some users, and not others?
Bub...is there any particular combination of things that you can pinpoint that causes the issue? Or...is it just random - and can happen on any track, at any time?
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 9:52 AM
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Pro Channel is the specific reason I decided to give Roland X1 a go. And ultimately, it's the specific reason I've abandoned Roland X1. And still, several months after the release of Roland X1, and multiple "fixes" later, users are reporting on these forums that Pro Channel doesn't work properly all the time. If Pro Channel is the only thing keeping you from X1, that's pretty easy to work around. Waves SSL bundle has nearly identical features (aside from the 1176). IKMM just released a new 1176 style dynamics processor.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 9:53 AM
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I have a 32bit system Win XP SP3. MOTU ASIO drivers... the older ones with the fastest RTL. I often times have Kontakt loaded... but don't have any other "off brand" VSTs that might be suspect. I have not installed the latest X1 iterations... but have followed with curiosity the fact that the problems persist with the updates. I have found that merely paying attention to the ProChannel reveals it's flakiness. Touching the Tube Sat buttons definitely kick starts the issue. I think I stumbled across the issue back when I was making tests of the sound of the Saturation. Good luck. best regards, mike
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 9:57 AM
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I have found that merely paying attention to the ProChannel reveals it's flakiness. Ahh, Shrodinger's Cat syndrome. You don't know if PC is working or not untill you actually look, at which point its state in the universe becomes fixed.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 10:18 AM
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Pro Channel is the specific reason I decided to give Roland X1 a go. And ultimately, it's the specific reason I've abandoned Roland X1. And still, several months after the release of Roland X1, and multiple "fixes" later, users are reporting on these forums that Pro Channel doesn't work properly all the time.
If Pro Channel is the only thing keeping you from X1, that's pretty easy to work around.
Waves SSL bundle has nearly identical features (aside from the 1176).
IKMM just released a new 1176 style dynamics processor.
With all due respect, I didn't purchase X1 so that I could then purchase another bundle of software to "work around" a problem.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 10:52 AM
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I don't know what the difference could be. but if it is as Mike says, that it is random, I will continue to keep an eye on it and see if I can ever see/hear a problem. so far, however, I have not experienced any of the behaviors that mike and bub are seeing.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 10:59 AM
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Like Reece, I've been watching PC for the last couple of days and have'nt experienced any 'auto on/off' switching, yet...
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 12:07 AM
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With all due respect, I didn't purchase X1 so that I could then purchase another bundle of software to "work around" a problem. I agree with you completely in principal...  That said... if you want to use X1, I wouldn't let the ProChannel alone make that decision. There are far too many other good options for EQ/Dynamics... some of which you likely already own.
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 12:10 AM
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MOTU ASIO drivers... the older ones with the fastest RTL. Hi Mike, Wanted to let you know that the latest version of the MOTU FW drivers have given pre mkIII users lower round-trip latency (once again).
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 12:10 AM
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There are far too many other good options for EQ/Dynamics... some of which you likely already own.
You mean... Sonitus?? 
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July 06, 11 12:17 AM
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MOTU ASIO drivers... the older ones with the fastest RTL.
Hi Mike,
Wanted to let you know that the latest version of the MOTU FW drivers have given pre mkIII users lower round-trip latency (once again).
Thanks Jim. I'll be calling on you in the next season or two for a full rig... it's about time to re up the future proofing. :-)
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Re:About ProChannel randomly doing it's thing....
July 06, 11 12:18 AM
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You mean... Sonitus?? The Sonitus EQ/Dynamics are pretty decent. - TRacks 3 singles (Pultec, LA2A, 1176, etc)
- Waves (SSL bundle, Classic Comps, JJP Pultec)
- UAD (1176, LA2A, Pultec, and many others)
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