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The jumpy console view is still there
It's still doing the jumpy annoy the heck out of me thing. Grrrrrr!!!
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/12 02:31:29
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Sonar X1e x64, Win 7 x64 There's your problem, your using a sonar version that has nor been released yet. Have you done all the usual stuff, like update video card and turn acceleration off
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/12 08:45:37
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Guitarpima
It's still doing the jumpy annoy the heck out of me thing. Grrrrrr!!!
Yeah, I had it happen to me again last night. I thought the Quickfix was supposed to take care of that, but, no love.....
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/12 10:32:08
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Hi,
We did address an issue introduced in X1e causing tracks to reset when clicking on widgets. However there could be a case where it still happens. Could you please describe how you are getting tracks to jump?
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/12 15:50:31
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Dan Cate [Cakewalk
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Hi,
We did address an issue introduced in X1e causing tracks to reset when clicking on widgets. However there could be a case where it still happens. Could you please describe how you are getting tracks to jump?
Thanks
Daniel [Cakewalk]
Hi Dan, thanks for answering this post. It's not a case of tracks resetting, what happens is their place on the screen jumps. Let's say I'm wanting to adjust the volume on Track 15 which is located in the middle of my screen. When I click on it it suddenly jumps to the far left or far right of the screen. Best case scenario is I have to adjust it where it is or scroll it back (no big deal but annoying). Worst case is I don't notice and adjust the track which now occupies the middle screen position, or even worse make some other adjustment like delete a plug or adjust a send, etc. In all cases (so far) I haven't had anything major bad happening, deleted plugs can be reinserted by clicking "undo" etc., but it's a bit of a PITA. Thanks again, appreciate it.
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Dan Cate [Cakewalk]
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/12 16:55:13
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rscain,
I'm not able to reproduce any jumping based on your description. Could you describe step by step how you are getting the screen to jump unexpectedly?
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/12 18:02:45
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I know what rscain is referring to and it seems to be linked to the console view following the selected track in the track view. I think this feature was newly introduced w/ X1 b/c I don't remember it working that way prior and honestly it seems a little sloppy in it's implementation.
The thing is that a lot of times when the console view jumps to the selected track, the selected track is out of view (usually to the left) and you have to scroll over to actually have it visible on the screen which is VERY annoying after a while. And if you're trying to work fast can cause you to accidentally edit the wrong track which has happened to me many times as I've tried to adjust to this behavior. Then sometimes the consolve view doesn't follow at all so I'm not sure what the deal is.
Actually is there a way to turn this off b/c I'd rather not have it function the way it does currently?
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/12 18:03:41
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There's your problem, your using a sonar version that has nor been released yet.
Have you done all the usual stuff, like update video card and turn acceleration off
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/12 22:08:51
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bladetragic
I know what rscain is referring to and it seems to be linked to the console view following the selected track in the track view. I think this feature was newly introduced w/ X1 b/c I don't remember it working that way prior and honestly it seems a little sloppy in it's implementation.
The thing is that a lot of times when the console view jumps to the selected track, the selected track is out of view (usually to the left) and you have to scroll over to actually have it visible on the screen which is VERY annoying after a while. And if you're trying to work fast can cause you to accidentally edit the wrong track which has happened to me many times as I've tried to adjust to this behavior. Then sometimes the consolve view doesn't follow at all so I'm not sure what the deal is.
Actually is there a way to turn this off b/c I'd rather not have it function the way it does currently?
Yeah, sorry, I didn't make myself very clear, sorry about that. It happens in Console View. It's just as bladetragic describes it. Click on a track in console view and it jumps from wherever it is to the far left of the screen, and if you're not careful before you notice it you've applied whatever edit you were going to make to the wrong track because there's a track other than the one you've selected under your cursor. And the thing that makes it doubly annoying is that it doesn't always happen, seems like it's always when you're getting into a good workflow, getting things done quickly, then BANG it happens and you have to undo whatever it is you've just done if you haven't noticed it in time. And it happens to me in both the track pane and buss pane. And yeah, if it's a feature that could be turned off I'd turn it off in a heartbeat, it's very annoying. Thanks again Dan, and thanks a lot to you too, blade, for describing it correctly.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 01:43:33
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I'm in on this one too! What a pain!! I've had instances in the CV where the channel strip I attemp to select jumps entirely off the screen (when ProChannel is open on that strip). I was hoping it was fixed in the most recent build but it does not appear to be.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 04:50:46
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Yep! I'm seeing this as well.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 08:49:40
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Do you guys have the option to sync the Tv and the CV enabled?
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 09:32:22
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No. Mine are always kept separate.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 09:45:32
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I get the jump too and commented on it with Guitarpima a couple of months ago.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 09:54:28
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Tom Riggs
Do you guys have the option to sync the Tv and the CV enabled?
Where is the option? Can't seem to remember seeing it.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 10:13:27
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Thanks for your patience folks. I'm still a little unclear as to what's happening. Does anyone have time to make a video of it happening and post it to this forum?
The only jumping I can get to happen is when the ProChannel is exposed. There's a case where if the Bus/Track view splitter covers half the ProChannel, focusing the strip will cause it to jump - uncovering the rest of the PC. It hardly is jumping all the way to the left as described here, unless it's the only track viewed in the Console view.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 10:34:20
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Dan Cate [Cakewalk
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Thanks for your patience folks. I'm still a little unclear as to what's happening. Does anyone have time to make a video of it happening and post it to this forum?
The only jumping I can get to happen is when the ProChannel is exposed. There's a case where if the Bus/Track view splitter covers half the ProChannel, focusing the strip will cause it to jump - uncovering the rest of the PC. It hardly is jumping all the way to the left as described here, unless it's the only track viewed in the Console view.
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Daniel [Cakewalk]
Don't have time to post a vid right now but this is not an issue that is solely related to the console view alone. It is something that happens when you select tracks in the Track View and the Console View follows the selection you've made in the Track View. That is where things get jumpy and a bit random. Unless there is a way to disable this Console View from following the Track View selection that I am unaware of, then I honestly don't see how you could NOT see it happening. Edit: One thing I just thought about is that I'm using a dual monitor setup w/ TV on one and CV on the other so that could make a difference. I would imagine if you're switching between views on a single monitor then you may not notice it and your workflow may not be effected the same.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 10:51:08
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Happens for me, too. I'm using a single monitor and Sonar X1 Expanded.
I've been holding off on a bug report because I can't find a way to adequately describe it.
I do switch back and forth between track view and console view quite a bit.
I'm not sure exactly what causes it but if I'm working in a bus in console view and then click on a track in console view, the console-tracks pane will shift to the left so that the track I selected will now be at the far left position of the pane. Meanwhile, the track beneath the pointer will get the edit. So if I've selected something in the FX bin it will now be moved to the incorrect track.
This seems to happen when I switch from track view to console view and then work on a bus in console view and then click on a different track (from the one I was working on in track view) in console view -OR- if the console view is not in the right position for the track I was working on in track view (this is why I haven't submitted a bug report -- it's very confusing and seems to follow a particular workflow). I would imagine that you'd have to have several tracks going (enough to need the horizontal scroll bar in console view anyway).
It's now to the point that I will always try to click in the blank grey area at the top of a console-track so that it will scoot over to the left and THEN I'll make my edits.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 12:13:18
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Hi Folks,
In X1 we added a sync component to the Track and Console view. For example, when selecting a track in the track view, the console view will follow the track selection and visa versa. This is intended behavior and was a highly requested feature not found in earlier versions of Sonar where the Console view and Track view acted independently. This functionality allows one to use these views as a navigator and keep your current track visible on both views. This is particularly helpful when you have the console view docked, the Track view visible and the Track Inspector collapsed. In a project with 16+ tracks you can use the Track view to navigate to a track on which you want to adjust a volume/pan/ProChannel parameter.
Is this what you are experiencing? If so, would you like the option to not have the views follow the active/selected track?
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 12:47:08
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I like the concept, but I'm wondering if this is what is causing the problem?
When you say that "console view will follow the track selection and visa versa" do you mean that the console view will put the "selected" track in the first position of the console view pane (if possible and necessary)?
I like the way I can have a track view open above the multidock and when I select a track in the console-view the track will scroll to the appropriate track-view track. But the other way seems to be causing a problem (ie. selecting a track in track-view and then switching to console-view.
Again, I'm not sure this is exactly what is causing the problem but it sure sounds like a candidate.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 15:42:32
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Hi Folks,
The console view and track view should follow selection. However, it should not always move the selected track into the left most position, only if the target track was offsite and to the left. The console view should never jump position as it is being clicked on. Any further information on how this is occurring would be greatly appreciated. If anyone has a moment to capture a video of the issue that would really help us get to the bottom of this quicker.
Thanks!
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 15:46:43
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Hi Dan,
Console view is moving the track to the very left when clicking between the track and a bus and back. It should not move by itself. Tricky little thing it is.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 15:59:28
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Guyz make a video ! ...i know what it's all about , but difficult to repoduce , will check it again ...
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 16:03:46
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I've had this problem, and like the poster above, it's when I have the track view on one monitor and the console view on the other.
An ability to switch off the selection sync between the two would solve it for me.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 16:05:16
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Hmm, hang on, maybe I'm wrong about that being an adequate fix. Will have to watch out for it next time it happens.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 16:20:59
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yep that makes sens as i have on my consle view , just the time line (where my markers displayed) of the track view at the same time of the console view doked to 90 % of the screen
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 20:11:31
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Sonar X1e x64, Win 7 x64
There's your problem, your using a sonar version that has nor been released yet.
Have you done all the usual stuff, like update video card and turn acceleration off
Maybe your not aware of the X1e (expanded) update. Check out the Cakewalk store. It's there.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/13 20:25:25
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I'll see what I can do about a video. It's not hard to reproduce. All you have to do is work on a project, really get into it and whammo. Unless your careful, you may make unwanted changes, move a plug to a different track or who knows what.
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/14 01:33:09
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Tom Riggs
Do you guys have the option to sync the Tv and the CV enabled?
Yes, I do - but they never stay synced 
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Re:The jumpy console view is still there
2011/12/14 08:31:30
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Hi Folks,
I think I was able to reproduce your issue. The Console view will jump if a track strip has focus, has been scrolled offsite and you click on a bus strip. For example: In a project with 16+ tracks click on track 1 in the console view. Scroll the track strips so you see the last track. Click on the Master bus. This makes the track strips jump to view track 1. Does this seem like what you are running into?
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