Andrew Rossa
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New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
Hi- We worked with Neyrinck to bring SONAR compatibility to the V-Control Pro iPad controller. It is now available today for download at the iTunes stores. Learn more about the V-Control Pro
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 14:45:42
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Any thoughts of making this for the Android systems?
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 15:04:26
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 15:21:28
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Hmm so Cake has been working on stuff for the Apple iPad... Wonder if they have any plans on releasing SONAR for Mac? 
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 15:27:14
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vaultwit
Hmm so Cake has been working on stuff for the Apple iPad... Wonder if they have any plans on releasing SONAR for Mac?
No, this isn't our product. It's by Neyrinck and we simply helped them with some SONAR compatibility issues with their product. SP
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 15:35:39
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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No, this isn't our product. It's by Neyrinck and we simply helped them with some SONAR compatibility issues with their product.
SP
Ah gotcha. Does that mean there is no future for SONAR availability on Macs? I'm a happy SONAR user on my Windows 7 system, so its just a matter of curiosity 
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 15:45:19
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vaultwit
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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No, this isn't our product. It's by Neyrinck and we simply helped them with some SONAR compatibility issues with their product.
SP
Ah gotcha. Does that mean there is no future for SONAR availability on Macs? I'm a happy SONAR user on my Windows 7 system, so its just a matter of curiosity
Neyrinck's compatibility with SONAR really has nothing to do with what OS SONAR runs on now or in the future. Their ipad app is just a control surface app for SONAR, not a DAW or anything like that. As for SONAR running on other OS's in the future, that's not something I can comment on. SP
post edited by Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk] - 2012/03/30 17:05:11
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 16:01:35
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Sorry to butt in but any idea if/when the Mackie CS dll will be updated? - CWBRN 6309. Thanks.
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 16:09:37
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Well that app looks absolutely incredible. Maybe I'm a cheapskate but $49!!! I already have AC7. I'll stick with that for when I get the urge to control X1 with my iPad.
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 16:16:04
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I also have AC-7 Core running, but there is a free version of V-Control so I installed that. Seems to be running and it looks like it would be more useful than AC-7 Core because you can change the focus to any window running on your computer, including plug-ins. The only thing missing in the instructions, since they have not yet been updated to include SONAR, is that you must choose "Mackie Control" as the control surface in SONAR's Edit, preferences, Control Surface. I kept looking for a V-Control or similar entry, and did not find it. And I'm still looking for a labelled diagram.
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 16:59:37
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garrigus
TouchDAW on Android works nicely with SONAR, although V-Control may have more features... haven't tried it.
Scott
TouchDAW does indeed work - I have it on my Android tablet and use it mostly as remote transport control from across the room in my home studio. I've worked with some of the other features, but not much.
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 17:03:00
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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As for SONAR running on other OS's in the future, that's not something I can't comment on.
SP
Excuse my English if I'm mistaken, but doesn't two negatives make one positive? So why don't you? 
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 17:05:27
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ProjectM
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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As for SONAR running on other OS's in the future, that's not something I can't comment on.
SP
Excuse my English if I'm mistaken, but doesn't two negatives make one positive? So why don't you?
Typo. SP
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 17:09:22
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 17:18:46
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What version should we be using? I've had this a while and I don't see an upgrade... Thx
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/30 19:03:42
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The description of the free version of V-Control says it will arm tracks, but I don't see that. There are Mute and Solo buttons only. No Record buttons for tracks or transport. Is this a limitation of the free version? [If so, that's perfectly reasonable.]
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mugician41
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/31 16:44:54
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The paid version you can do all of that. Mute, Solo, record and etc. but so far I can't find UNDO. Anyone else find Undo anywhere. Unfortunately, it's hard for me to work without undo!
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/03/31 18:00:26
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This has been out for about three weeks now, Andrew, have the free version working from day one just to test it. It is the best virtual controller of them all, I've tried Touch Daw on Android and it worked great, except it looked like it had escaped from the 80's. I mean it was monochrome but hey it works. AC7 Core really good, nice looking but confusing and not much usability, yea you could mix with it but little else. I own it but what do you expect for 7$. The other problem with this program is it's a little confusing with it's multiple screens. I own it''s cousin for the Iphone as well now this is cool because I can control my CUE mix software that comes with my MOTU ULTRA lite now if I was going to use my ULTRA LITE for a gig and it will probably happen, the the AC7 mini would be my go to solution. Finally and this is a big call but it can and I think it will destroy the low end controller marker, Behringer and the like. The thing that makes the V-Contol so special is the V-Window, for the first time a way to control effects and VST'i without the need of a 2nd controller. Amazing. As I say I don't own the 50 buck version, just the free but I had the V-Window up and running, although I could't use it because you can't with the free version but this is revolutionary. What V-Control have done, is combine a control surface with a splashback type program, I own Splashback too. Disclaimer: I am not going to offer opinions of software I have not used or heard. So all in all Cake good work in getting this done, nice to see you announce this Andrew, may be you could offer a couple as a prize  Finally for all those conspiracy theorist's, guess what there is no other tablet for music and music makeing, I have tried Android, I'm glad I was able to change from my Xoom to an IPad. I hate, hate having to say this but for this is sort of thing, there can only be on, ok that was Highlander but it's true. You can't: the permutations for different codes, slots (eg: slotting your I-Pad into a mixer, The Alesis I-Dock or Behringer I-Axe) is nigh on impossible, you need one device because the end user, you are going to benefit. I can't see into the future maybe some other company will challange the dominance of the I-Pad, maybe the Windows tablet but I don't see this happening and in fact I am already hearing rumbles because how do you catch up with a company that has been making apps for three years. It's like asking the tortise to catch the hare, now if the hare has a nap because we all know the story, it could happen but I don't see this hare doing that and in fact I see the hare only getting faster. Final word on this, they're better tablets on the market than the Ipad and lets be clear the Ipad is not that good not even it's new one, it still lags behind a lot of the other offerings but as the music makeing tablet, it will dominate for some time to come or at least until Hadrian takes over Apple, as he has done at Avid. Note: Hadrian was a Roman emperor, about 90 AD, he decided to stop conquest and consolidate the Roman empire because he could forsee that there were not enough men or soldiers to keep the empire under control. So Andrew how about that prize Neb
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/03 17:09:18
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I bet there will be a great android music making option coming. Android apps started much later but they are moving at a very fast speed.
I think Android tablets will meet and/or exceed apple in the near future. There is a lot more companies working on android tablets than the one company that does ipad.
We shall see!
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/09 08:06:37
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Hey Andrew/Seth Can you respond to FastBikerBoy's question about when we can expect to see the Mackie dll update? It's fantastic you guys are working with third parties to make sure you have a presence in the iPad arena- it is such as useful tool as BenMMusTech makes clear, but V-Control can't fire on all four cylinders until you guys sort that dll and get to the position where the EQ and Comp buttons fire up their respective Pro Channel components. I can see why Cakewalk (Roland) wouldn't want to invest money in putting together iPad versions of the V-Studio kit as you guys may loose out on sales of your hardware (although you could argue that you are targeting 2 different ends of the budget scale here), but by supporting the Mackie protocol you keep all those guys out there with compatible hardware happy and also make us iPad users really happy too. In fact, I would go so far as to say that if you're not proactive in making sure you have fully functioning iPad control surfaces that in the long term you may loose potential customers- I think having an iPad (and probably other tablet) control surface(s) will be a key decision point as to what DAW to choose in the future. In any case, given such a competitive market can you risk not taking this stuff seriously?. I am thinking of your future as well as ours Also (and to answer the riojazz question) isn't there an issue with the Record implementation on the channel strips- it arms and disarms recording for a pure audio and pure midi track but doesn't work properly for instrument tracks where the soft syth midi and VST plugin (audio output) are combined. I am assuming this is a dll issue as Sonar just isn't responding correctly to the Mackie protocol in the case of an instrument track (maybe instrument tracks came in after the last dll update?). mugician41- the UNDO feature is on the edit panel under Multi Panel | Edit Panel Cheers Lee
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riojazz
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/09 18:40:07
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Lee, the specific question I was asking was, does the paid version have record / arm track support (since the free version does not), and the answer is yes. I haven't recorded with it yet, though.
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/10 14:00:54
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I downloaded the free V-Controller this morning and got my iPad and DAW on the same network. I could also select Sonar the VControl window but nothing happens when I try to control the console. Any ideas here or would this question be better directed to V-Controller's site?
Thanks.
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/10 14:16:51
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Timboman
Hey Andrew/Seth
Can you respond to FastBikerBoy's question about when we can expect to see the Mackie dll update?
It's fantastic you guys are working with third parties to make sure you have a presence in the iPad arena- it is such as useful tool as BenMMusTech makes clear, but V-Control can't fire on all four cylinders until you guys sort that dll and get to the position where the EQ and Comp buttons fire up their respective Pro Channel components.
I can see why Cakewalk (Roland) wouldn't want to invest money in putting together iPad versions of the V-Studio kit as you guys may loose out on sales of your hardware (although you could argue that you are targeting 2 different ends of the budget scale here), but by supporting the Mackie protocol you keep all those guys out there with compatible hardware happy and also make us iPad users really happy too. In fact, I would go so far as to say that if you're not proactive in making sure you have fully functioning iPad control surfaces that in the long term you may loose potential customers- I think having an iPad (and probably other tablet) control surface(s) will be a key decision point as to what DAW to choose in the future. In any case, given such a competitive market can you risk not taking this stuff seriously?. I am thinking of your future as well as ours
Also (and to answer the riojazz question) isn't there an issue with the Record implementation on the channel strips- it arms and disarms recording for a pure audio and pure midi track but doesn't work properly for instrument tracks where the soft syth midi and VST plugin (audio output) are combined. I am assuming this is a dll issue as Sonar just isn't responding correctly to the Mackie protocol in the case of an instrument track (maybe instrument tracks came in after the last dll update?).
mugician41- the UNDO feature is on the edit panel under Multi Panel | Edit Panel
Cheers
Lee
Sorry, I don't know about the current situation of Mackie Control Support. SP
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/10 17:11:05
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Rimshot, here are some links that may help you. Also, I posted the following answer at the Neyrinck forum in response to another question. http://www.neyrinck.com/s...aq/v-control-pro#f_208 http://forum.neyrinck.com/ 1. make sure the green N icon is in the system tray. If not, double-click on the Ney-Fi app icon. If you don't have that, reinstall the Neyrinck driver. 2. Look in SONAR's Edit, Preferences, MIDI Devices. Do you see V-Pan 1, V-Pan 2 and V-Control in BOTH the Inputs and Outputs panels? If so, make sure each of these six entries checked. 3. Then go back to MIDI Control Surfaces. Do you have an entry for Mackie Control-1 (or 2 etc. if you have more than one control surface)? If so, then click on the little downward triangle for its In Port entry, and select V-Control. Do the same for Out Port. Click on Apply then Close. Then the app on your iPad should work.
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/10 18:21:41
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Thanks much Matt! I appreciate this help. I will try it out as soon as I get home. Can't wait!
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/10 18:26:39
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Rimshot
Thanks much Matt! I appreciate this help. I will try it out as soon as I get home. Can't wait!
Rimshot
The VWindow does not work with the free version, I think. Otherwise why would you pay 50 bucks for the app. Sorry RimShot. Hey Cake were is my prize  , I have been helping everyone with this V-Control. I'd like the concrete limiter please This is NEB from the Nebula of NEB
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/10 18:41:14
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I Have a few question if anyone could answer..
I realize you need a Network or wifi to get these apps to work, Is there a way to set these apps up without connecting my daw to the internet.
And is there app I can use for a XY pad to my Iphone?
I think the route Im going to go if not is going to be a touch panel monitor, what I'm trying to do is control an XY pad on a virtual synth without using a mouse, I know korg makes the nano pad which would be my last resort .But a cool app on my iphone without making my daw vulnerable to the net would be cool ..
Thanks John
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/10 18:51:37
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You can set up WiFi in your house without connecting to the Internet. There was a thread about this on the Neyrinck forum (see link in my post above). What I recall from using the free V-Control app briefly was that you do have a V-Window, but you do not have the Edit window that allows you real control over SONAR's buttons, function keys etc. The V-Window allows you to put whatever you want into it, so it could be the computer's main Windows display, allowing you to load SONAR in the first place, for example. I should be clear that all I use V-Control for is remote playback of tracks for practicing in another room: just transport control, select track, and levels. I have barely begun to experiment with more intricate functions. One reason I use the Edit window is to avoid having to make multiple presses of the rewind button. With the Edit window, I programmed a function key (F8) to go Home (back to the start of the track).
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/10 19:01:46
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I Have a few question if anyone could answer..
I realize you need a Network or wifi to get these apps to work, Is there a way to set these apps up without connecting my daw to the internet.
And is there app I can use for a XY pad to my Iphone?
I think the route Im going to go if not is going to be a touch panel monitor, what I'm trying to do is control an XY pad on a virtual synth without using a mouse, I know korg makes the nano pad which would be my last resort .But a cool app on my iphone without making my daw vulnerable to the net would be cool ..
Thanks John
I wouldn't worry about connecting to the internet, I have my main DAW connected to the internet all the time even when I am recordging, it's all myth's and fairies about some great big nasty virus is going to eat your computer. Just don't accept that offer of marriage from that russian saying she is a princess. You are looking at program called Touch OSC $5.49, I haven't got this yet I know it has an XY controller, now when I tried to get it to work with Android, it would't I think thay have fixed it there is now a little computer connector app. So give it a go and report back because I want this program myself. Est Touch OSC is really from what I have seen of the Android version good at controlling your knobs , not your faders, your knobs say on your synths. Still checking my email's for that link to my concrete limiter , nope not there. This advice stuff is hard work you know. Neb
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Re:New V-Control Pro iPad Controller for SONAR
2012/04/10 19:04:03
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Ben, your name is Ben. I will test tonight and let you know how the free version went.
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