Pentagon and PsynII and some other things won't load [SOLVED]

I just did a clean install with Windows 8, and this is my first time going 64-bit, so that might be the problem. Will Pentagon and PsynII and other 32-bit apps not run in a 64-bit environment?

When I was installing X2, for several plugins and synths, it was unable to register the DLL/OCX: RegSvr32 fail with exit code Ox3. I had to hit ignore to keep the installation going.

These plugins and synth don't show up in X2 now, and songs I've used them in, of course won't play correctly.

Anyone know what the problem is here? Thanks.

Mark

I am considered an administrator when I log in. So that shouldn't be it.
Thanks.

Google and this site have many threads referencing this error not specific to Win8 though I do not think that matters. Here is an example http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=1821216

FYI PSYNII also runs in SONAR x2 64bit on Win7 I just loaded it up to make sure.

mwall


I am considered an administrator when I log in. So that shouldn't be it.
Thanks.

Mark so am I, but I couldn't get Rapture to install properly until I specifically selected "Run As Administrator" from the install.

This cured it.

I am considered an administrator when I log in. So that shouldn't be it.

Nope. You have to right click and select Run As Administrator. 

Glyn Barnes


There is a 64 bit version of Pentagon, not sure about PsynII

Really?
I was not able to find one.....but that does not mean a whole lot.......if you have a link that you could provide that would be cool.....cause I would much prefer to run 64 bit than a bridged version.......
 
But I did get mine to work by using jBridge.
 
Thanks
 
Clifford

Thanks for the tips, but I don't think these plugins and synths even installed, as they are not showing up in my plugins list. So I guess I'll need to try to do a custom install as administrator. How exactly would that work? I'm not at home now, so I can't experiment. Do I just right click on Part 1 of the installation downloads and select run as administrator?

Thanks.

Mark

UPDATE: PARTIALLY SOLVED.
Hate to double post this, but for those searching for answers with similar problems, it might help them, plus, I could use some suggestions for getting this to fully work.

I never got a response from Cakewalk on how to fix this, but after some more research I decided to completely uninstall X2 (using the method at the bottom of this post) and reinstall as administrator, instead of reinstalling as administrator over the top of the previous install.

This time Pentagon and PSYN II installed without the "Unable to register the DLL/OCX" error; however, even after opening X2 as administrator, the plugins don't work. My MIDI track that feeds the synth is lighting up on the meter, but nothing comes out of the synths.

Other synths (Z3TA) are working fine.

Any suggestions?


For those experiencing the same install problem, here are the instructions I found for a clean install of Sonar:


 
a) Completely un-install SONAR from your computer. This is normally 
done from Start | Programs | Cakewalk. This will not remove any of 
your files or audio data. 

b) To make sure nothing else is running while reinstalling SONAR in 
step 'e', choose Start | Run and type MSCONFIG. Click OK, choose 
Selective Startup, then uncheck the Load Startup Group Items box. 
Click OK, and restart Windows. You can always recheck that box at a 
later time. In Win 2000/XP, click Ctrl+Alt+Del and manually End Task 
on the items you don't need running. Restart your computer. 

c) Click the Windows Start button and select Run. At the prompt type 
REGEDIT and click OK. 
Backup your Registry before making edits - you do this by clicking the 
Registry menu, Export Registry File. 
Now delete the following Registry keys 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software 

Please note that this will remove any effects presets and key bindings 
you may have made in Cakewalk. You can back up those registry keys 
separately if you like. 

d) Delete the files AUD.INI and TTSSEQ.INI from the SONAR program 
folder. (For this step, I had to SEARCH my C drive for these files. You might have to set your computer to view hidden files ... not sure.)

e) Restart your computer, then reinstall SONAR. 

I am considered an administrator when I log in. So that shouldn't be it.

WRONG! You still have to right click and select Run as Administrator.  Pentagon and Psyn both work in X2 with Windows 7 or 8 64-bit. 


Its a weird-ass Windows quirk that we all went through a year or so ago. 

I don't think you can use the DXi version of Pentagon in 64-bit Windows. Use the VST version. I believe you can use the DXi version of PSYN II though. I tried both of mine under Windows 8 just now and they both work. Make sure you have a MIDI track with the output set to the softsynth you want to use, select the MIDI track, and make sure Input Echo is on. 

You can have both 32-bit and 64-bit Sonar installed at the same time so you don't need to go back. 

SOLVED (With no understanding of why)
The first thing I did when I installed Win8-64-bit and then X2 64-bit was to open my latest project, which used these DXi synths in question. All the settings were correct, as far as MIDI output being directed to the synths, etc. No matter what I tried with latency settings, etc., they would not work.

So, I decided to try creating a new instance of the synths in the same project, and voila, they work. All the settings are the same, but the original ones still don't work.

So, problem solved, but I have no explanation of why. 

Now if I can just get the dropouts from stopping when my buffers are set low. I have to bump them way up to like 1024 to prevent popping and constant dropouts. But won't that create ridiculous latencies when trying to record a synth or something in real time?

Thanks for all the help here.

Mark