Upgrade price for P5 v2.0?

After reading the P5 v2.0 news, I could help but NOT notice any upgrade pricing info for existing P5 owners. Or for that matter Sonar 4 and P5 owners -- what is the scoop -- upgrade pricing just not set yet?

Looking forward to April.

Keep up the good work Cakewalk.

Rob.

i think it's the ususal policy that the product is announced, the feature set described and the proposed launch date.

that all works to build some excitement and anticipation. any mention of upgrade price at that point would just bring things down.

as we approach the launch date, the prices will be broadcast. Like everything else it's complex. If as i suspect the multi-pad feature is being 'borrowed' from Kinetic there may be different pricing for Kinetic users (since it would seem that Kinetic features will almost completely be swallowed by P5 v2), than Sonar users, and, of course, the handful of existing P5 users.

We all think software development cycles are long and arduous, but nobody has any idea what those poor souls in sales and marketing go through to determine price points. So many lunches and business trips and extended fact finding junkets. They're always exhausted and pounding the caffeiene and aspirin. Not everybody's cut out for that sort of life.

And after all that research and number crunching is anybody happy with the prices they come up with. Well, no, 'cause free would be better.

Its certainly not free. Only those who buy P5 after February get the upgrade for free....

I agree with Robains. Sounds like CAKE really earned their way on this one...we'll see!

So if P5 right now is about $150-$200. the up grade should be no more than that. If you dont own p5, i think its a good idea to buy it now at the cheap price and get the free upgrade. and if the upgrade is more then $200, can;t u just buy p5 and upgrade it when the time comes?

but have never worked or been expected to work a 90 hour week.

Maybe that is why you're carrying a debt load -- sorry couldn't resist, but point being your cash flow situation is not a determining factor is Cakewalk's prices.

I don't know what type of products/applications you produce, but the entertainment industry (of which Cakewalk is a member) has a unique structure/deadlines as compared to other types of applications.

I've been coding since 1980 (had a few articles published from 82-85), professionally since 1987 and I've had many 90 hr weeks, in fact, I'm coming down from 4 consecutive 90 hr weeks right now to meet a Jan 31 deadline. So long as I'm learning, burn-out isn't a problem.

I don't think the price structure will be determine by what you consider "fair"? But as pointed out, I can't see the upgrade costing more than $200.

Not sure I'd call that a scam -- but it would definitely not be in Cakewalk's best interest and Cakewalk have consistantly been very generious with their existing customer base in the past.

But I try to avoid "what if" situations when I can't validate the result of the "what if" -- it's just a waste of time to guess and assumptions are perhaps the cause of 99% of the worlds problems today. :)

Rob.

I dont think i would take the time and effort to buy p5 again for the free upgrade, but i would think that cause u can get a free up grade if u buy p5 now, that they would make the upgrade for p5 owners just as much as P5 cost now or even cheaper.

not a capitailist or a communist think cakewalk will accept 100 pounds of dried mango for p5. what happen to the barter system. oh yea that private company called the federal reserve.

ORIGINAL: b rock

Do you think that I could substitute avocados? I've got tons lying around, and all that they're doing is making the attack 'gators fat & lazy. I'll up it to 200 lbs. of fresh avocados! If so, the crate's in the mail ...

Dang! You know how much avocados are going for here in California??? They're like $1.00 EACH!! And that's for little ones. I haven't had an avocado in months.

Back on topic- Cakewalk has historically priced their upgrades very fairly and I have complete confidence that they'll take care of their loyal users with a reasonable price for the upgrade. My guess would be something like $99.00.

Ok, I can't concentrate anymore. All I can think about is tons of avocados lying around.....


Ted

as an employee of a small coffee company here in Seattle, s\where I work MAYBE 50 hours/Week (the extra 10 hours spent finding parking and loading up on caffeine) I would gladly be willing to barter my free pound of coffee a week.....

Having said that- I am a new owner of P5 (well NOV purchase) and I think that this board is amazing due to the depth and breadth of knowledge that is so willingly shared here. So- a belated thank you to all of you for your informative and sometimes humorous posts from a lurker that is now out!

pete

Coffee, now ya talkin' -- there really is no substitute -- in fact one of my 15 min works is called "Coffee" -- as you may have guessed the tempo increases thru the duration -- starts about 80 and finishs at 140.

Yow $200 upgrade for Sonar customers!?!?!?! Its only $289 if you buy it straight out, that means I lost ten bucks buying it for $99 when it was on special. This just seems wrong to me - if you bought it for $299 originally, you would be in deep now! Or at the $199 price its I think the upgrade price is out of line.
Still, I don't see a price for existing P5 customers, so maybe there is a chance it will be less, I'm not really certain I will upgrade at that price, seeing as a great deal of what is new in P5 was simply ported over from Sonar, which of course I already own.
Am I off base here? This just seems a bit much to me.

Nice snag, Blue. I was planning on the worst case scenario, and set aside 2 bills. Looks like I've got some "found money" to waste ...er, invest in some other audio-related direction.

I believe $200 was stated as a worst case scenario. I called Cakewalk and talked to a sales rep, they have not yet set an upgrade price for either exisiting Sonar 4 owners nor existing Project 5 owners, but he assured me it would be lower than $200.

But if your choice is food or the new Project 5 v2.0, then I'd suggest you opt for Food and live with Project 5 v1.5 unless you have the talent and skills that requires the new features of Project 5 v2.0 -- but there again if you did, I don't think you'd be so concerned about cost.

Sorry, I'm just over it -- in the Sonar forum in Project 5 forums, too many folks just whining and moaning about upgrade costs and how Cakewalk are causing them to give up food, yada yada yada. Get over it and move on. If you are really so concerned about cost of living, then move to Etheopia or Ghana and get things back into perspective. And yes I have lived in Ghana so I do know.

robains
If my concerns came off as whining, that wasn't what I intended.
Everyone has the right to express their opinon here and that's fine with me, but isn't there a better way to disagree with someone than getting personal about it?