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2006/01/14 08:43:15 (permalink)

Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed...

Last night, out of the blue, the way the different windows minimize and maximize inside Sonar changed.

Now when I minimize one window, they all minimize - it's totally annoying.

Then when I maximize the window I want, the minimized windows are hidden behind it and I can't get to them.

Any tips/ideas?

Did I change something unknowingly?

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    Bob Damiano [Cakewalk]
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/14 08:55:53 (permalink)
    That's not new. This will only happen if the window you maximize/restore is not floating. If it is floating, it will not affect other views.

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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/14 09:33:24 (permalink)
    Hi:

    Tommy: this ever was so in other versions of Sonar.
    Bob: thank you for pointing us for the floating option. I not knew about.
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/14 12:52:42 (permalink)
    If it is floating, it will not affect other views


    Thanks for the info, Bob .. not sure what about the first part - "Now when I minimize one window, they all minimize "

    Here it doesn't minimize them all when i minimize one window.

    Bob, is there a way or a mode that Sonar won't always open plugs/synths in Floating mode ?

    Why do i have to keep on clicking on each window's menu and choose "disable floting" when i want to be able to browse between the windows using Ctrl+Tab ?

    can the default behvaior be changed?
    maybe a modifier key to hold when launching a synth? just guessing.. i tried them all i think ;)

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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/14 13:12:59 (permalink)
    I have had instances that window sizes have been zeroed, so the Restored size appears the same as the minimized sized

    Select one, click restore. Mouse over the edges looking for drag arrows.

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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/14 14:03:05 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Bob Damiano [Cakewalk]

    If it is floating, it will not affect other views.

    Hi Bob:
    Tested here and yes, the floating views minimize/maximize not affect other views. And the settings still active in the other projects we open. Nice.
    Thank you for pointing us to the right side.
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/14 14:33:28 (permalink)
    Bob, is there a way or a mode that Sonar won't always open plugs/synths in Floating mode ?

    Why do i have to keep on clicking on each window's menu and choose "disable floting" when i want to be able to browse between the windows using Ctrl+Tab ?

    can the default behvaior be changed?


    Anyone ? pleeeease ?

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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/15 12:47:36 (permalink)
    BUNP...once again-

    is there a way or a mode where Sonar won't always open plugs/synths in Floating mode ?

    for example- skyline (in another thread) decided that messing with 16 instances of the Dimension Pro sampler is just too much ...
    I personally do find it "possible" (although sure not so convenient) BUT to avoid the trouble is it possible to browse thru all the windows?
    I DO need to Ctrl+Tab between them..and yes i do use sometimes some assigned key shortcut to reach to the other screens (Track view, console view...etc.)

    when each of the synth/plugs instances is open in FLOATING mode (which covers everything else..."always on top" behavior") i can't imagine that you have to click "disable floating" 16 times in that example...
    so what's the right way to do this ? if all the windows are in floating mode how can i access all the open views ?
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/15 18:14:20 (permalink)
    BUNP...once again


    oh sorry - i meant BUMP

    Anyone has a solution btw ?

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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/16 00:58:37 (permalink)
    is there a way or a mode where Sonar won't always open plugs/synths in Floating mode ?

    for example- skyline (in another thread) decided that messing with 16 instances of the Dimension Pro sampler is just too much ...
    I personally do find it "possible" (although sure not so convenient) BUT to avoid the trouble is it possible to browse thru all the windows?
    I DO need to Ctrl+Tab between them..and yes i do use sometimes some assigned key shortcut to reach to the other screens (Track view, console view...etc.)

    when each of the synth/plugs instances is open in FLOATING mode (which covers everything else..."always on top" behavior") i can't imagine that you have to click "disable floating" 16 times in that example...
    so what's the right way to do this ? if all the windows are in floating mode how can i access all the open views ?



    NOTHING ?? so everything just suppose to float ??



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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/16 14:14:50 (permalink)
    BUMP

    ok.. so everyone has the same thing..right? just tell me i'm not the only one with this "always on top" behavior..

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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/17 10:50:50 (permalink)
    for example- skyline (in another thread) decided that messing with 16 instances of the Dimension Pro sampler is just too much ...
    I personally do find it "possible" (although sure not so convenient) BUT to avoid the trouble is it possible to browse thru all the windows?
    I DO need to Ctrl+Tab between them..and yes i do use sometimes some assigned key shortcut to reach to the other screens (Track view, console view...etc.)

    when each of the synth/plugs instances is open in FLOATING mode (which covers everything else..."always on top" behavior") i can't imagine that you have to click "disable floating" 16 times in that example...


    oh.. skyline = Skyline UK

    no comments i see..so maybe the answer is YES and we're all stuck with launching plugs/synths and then keep on 1-minimizing/closing the windows...or 2- choose "disable floating" for EACH one..each time we open any... OUCH !
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/17 23:47:55 (permalink)
    BUMP

    anyone?
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/18 14:39:10 (permalink)
    no one cares.... FLOAT it will be

    just remember.... 16 instances of a plug= 16 times going to the right click menu and selecting "disable floating".. some "workflow"
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/18 23:59:25 (permalink)
    16 times going to the right click menu and selecting "disable floating"..


    i'm so sorry - it's NOT a right click .. it's a left click on the top left of a window..just wanted to make this clear.
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/19 12:43:28 (permalink)
    Hi AL

    Never really noticed it before, but since reading this post and creating a mess of soft synths, I See What You're saying .....
    Its a major PITA !

    How do non-keyboard playing fools like me deal with this when we want to create a techno/dance project full of soft synths and samplers ?

    Does anyone have a link to the Feature request ?

    If enough of us want and need this I think it SHOULD be implemented in S6 !


    EDited: that is, assuming we're talking S5Pro here, right ?
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/19 22:43:43 (permalink)
    ... it's all for good reasons and for a better workflow in the future !
    it can be fixed... a PITA doesn't mean that it's a "bug" of course... Sonar is great ! here here..some positive thoughts!

    the basic default(always float when launching) mode can be fixed in 5 minutes i'm sure... going beyond that will take more more time... like another thread on page 1 (been asked 100's of times) - the synth rack vs. fx bin for synths -
    i'm not really for a major new design for all the above...it might break stuff that works ( ouch...)
    or maybe it IS better to design these again ? really , i don't know which is the better way regarding these major GUI things-
    screen space workflow and a "synth rack WITH automation"

    EDited: that is, assuming we're talking S5Pro here, right ?


    yup .. producer here.. either one has the same thing i believe



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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/01/22 12:52:19 (permalink)
    the basic default(always float when launching) mode can be fixed in 5 minutes i'm sure... going beyond that will take more more time... like another thread on page 1 (been asked 100's of times) - the synth rack vs. fx bin for synths -
    i'm not really for a major new design for all the above...it might break stuff that works ( ouch...)
    or maybe it IS better to design these again ? really , i don't know which is the better way regarding these major GUI things-
    screen space workflow and a "synth rack WITH automation"


    I apologize for going OT with the Synth Rack/VST automation

    but what about the Float by default thing? (explained above 20 times or so..)

    Float means also "always on top" behavior...so is it clever to design windows that always have the "always on top" by default? ...and i DO use two monitors (so i do use also the Floating mode)..thank you
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/02/01 10:58:28 (permalink)
    The only option right now to avoid this is to save ahead of time some templates with floating disabled per each window..
    right?

    but can we still have a switch to change the default ?

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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/02/02 12:19:02 (permalink)
    but can we still have a switch to change the default ?


    ah..in Sonar 5.02 .. i see Thanks !!
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/02/04 00:47:31 (permalink)
    alright... a poll !

    What do YOU use most of the time, windows set to Floating enabled or disabled?
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/02/10 23:44:05 (permalink)
    let's try this again...please read above
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    RE: Behavior of windows inside Sonar has changed... 2006/02/28 19:36:28 (permalink)
    Hi AL

    Never really noticed it before, but since reading this post and creating a mess of soft synths, I See What You're saying .....
    Its a major PITA !


    yes.. i hit the "disable floating" option too many times here.. i hate it!

    anyone else see this?
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