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2011/04/09 08:49:42 (permalink)

x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project

I just applied the patch , opened a small project (3 synth) played with the colors customisation of meters .....and ok let's work serious now , close it and crashola !!

We need a patch for the patch .....:)

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 09:02:02 (permalink)
    please cakewalk check on the asio driver side .....
    it hapeend one time when change buffers size and closing the prefernces ...so that stop audio and back again is messy ...somehere
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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 09:50:15 (permalink)
    one two more crashes since last post ....hit single on its way but i have to save after each step .....
    screen shots coming ....


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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 15:54:41 (permalink)

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 16:27:32 (permalink)
    Had the same problem. Had to recreate the project in a new file created under X1b244.

    Have had no crash on save problems since.

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    It was all so different, before everything changed...

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 18:06:30 (permalink)
    I'm with a singer right now , no issue during 4 hours recording , but close and bam !!!
    Even not closing sonar but only the project does it !!!

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffffffff!

    And my singer is laughing at me !! right now

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 18:09:27 (permalink)
    Great time to get on the forums and tell everyone about it. 

    Is your DAW computer hooked onto the net?    


    post edited by backwoods - 2011/04/09 18:12:48
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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 18:21:16 (permalink)

    Zo .. unless you singer is from Journey, he better stop loling now !
    whats the make and model of the motherboard so i can go read up
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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 19:29:12 (permalink)
    Crashing on close would lead me to a midi controller issue.

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 21:00:01 (permalink)
    ok guyz : system rock solid  VS 700 , cakewalk workstation (desktop madintegration by cakewalk in Europe) sonar 8.5 running like a beast ....VS 700 last drivers + firmware ....

    Seven 32 bits ...latency cool 256 samples light project ....

    My singer (woman )was laughthing not at me , because i explained to here that i installed X1 mainly first because i give workshop on it at the french SAE time to time so i gotta master it ...at the SAE the same desktop and system and X1 beta on it , we msut install the last one but i have no issue with the beta !!!

    And i really have the feeling that i have more since the patch , and this is not just a feeling 



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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 21:16:19 (permalink)
    Zo I am so sorry you are having these problems. My only advice is to uninstall and reinstall. With each install run it to see if it is stable. Then install a patch. One thing at a time. Step by step. Perhaps, some how that may fix the problems.

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 21:24:26 (permalink)
    oh yeah , computer of course not hooked to web (not internet card !!) dpc latency clean ....i know my **** when it come to computer music ....gonna check a clean re install of audio driver and check each midi devices ....(Maschine , Novation remote , VS 700 C) also will check with my fireface ...


    I also noticed a crazy thing that didn't happened before : if i record let's say vocals on a looped part (4 bars) if a word goes from the end of the 4th bar to the begining of the 1st bar , it get split but not sample accurate ...this mean it have a cut !! if you paste it at the end of the 4 bars ....the audio clip are not cut well !!

    So i checked all the audio clips and nothing is right to the grid ...if i bounce a track beging from the 5 bars (midi) the audio start at 4:04:120 .....

    So offset ?  dc offste set ...

    when i zoom at the beginng of an audio clip it never start well and if i move it with snap grid set to bar  , the next bar it will beging before or late never on  if i zoom well ...

    I'm getting nervous , long sessionjust ended , 3h30 in the morning , no rest but stress !!


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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 21:26:08 (permalink)
    Zo: what did you do for chipset drivers >?

    btw your french from where if i may ask

    post edited by StarTekh - 2011/04/09 21:27:18
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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 21:46:04 (permalink)
    In fact John now the crash on close seems a joke compared to my clips issue , and that magnetic grid issue ....i make strucures and no clip is right in its place 

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 21:47:32 (permalink)
    Chipset TI not even used as i use usb for VS 700 ........

    I'm from Paris .....
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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 22:07:38 (permalink)
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    Chipset TI not even used as i use usb for VS 700 ........

    I'm from Paris .....


    Zo: chipset drivers make the system work.. you install windows 7 then update the chipset drivers and video drivers. the chipset drivers come from the motherboard
    home page ..support usualy, now if you tell me the make
    and model of the motherboard il direct you to the site..

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 22:13:24 (permalink)
    i opened a two dayz ago project and all clip and all are just perfectly on place (nexus) so i said ok let's try maybe this is realted to the plugins , so i made a track of nexus midi , freezed it in real time : not in place as midi ....

    As i write (all midi devices unplugged)  i'm test several latencies samples : crashola passing from 128 to 512 .......

    So as i said before the patch , and i say it again : audio driver related ...when you open the control panel , the audio stop and then it will restard , this processes is not done right !! at least with the VS 700 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 22:19:06 (permalink)
    You know the last one  ?

    Crashola now on close S8.5 ....thks !!and goodnight

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 22:22:24 (permalink)
    Startrek , i appreciate ....but my system is 1/2 years old and never had one issue before X1 .....i know that system performance are related to chipset , I/O operation time , dpc latencie ...ect ....i'm telling ya the system is a virgin ....
    this is what i have  : 

    http://www.rolandce.com/eu/en/products/computer-music/caw/caw-stationxl-nl/


    but with a i7 920 , nvidia 9400 gt ....replaced by hd 4350 ...
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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 22:25:07 (permalink)
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    Startrek , i appreciate ....but my system is 1/2 years old and never had one issue before X1 .....i know that system performance are related to chipset , I/O operation time , dpc latencie ...ect ....i'm telling ya the system is a virgin ....


    Zo: if you never installd chipsetdrivers after the os install, then thats the issue..good luck..
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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 22:32:41 (permalink)
    Startreck , i'm telling you that the system is not new , and i'm a computer engineer so i know what to do ...and this was done long time ago ....

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 22:59:18 (permalink)
    this is why I'm not moving to X1 anytime very soon (although will be purchasing soon- but not actually implementing this version in my studio...)  ...and a I'm a very longtime Sonar user- like since 1991?...

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/09 23:09:35 (permalink)
    Sacalait


    this is why I'm not moving to X1 anytime very soon (although will be purchasing soon- but not actually implementing this version in my studio...)  ...and a I'm a very longtime Sonar user- like since 1991?...


    In production is could see you having cold feet. but me and many others use X-1b-244 with out any issues ..jon
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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/10 05:16:41 (permalink)
    I was very scpetical before installing X1 , reading all the feedbacks but the X1B had a good press and i knew that the fix was coming so i said ok let back up and install the baby ....

    The experience using is more than pleasent , very ergonomic , fun and smooth to use ...weird stuff time to time but maybe because changes in contols .....but the main thing was crashes : when closing and when changing buffer .....

    And now i see that the audio clip for exemple if you freeze a midi clip , the midi is on place the audio , not really on the excat start time ....

    Will clean d'install and re install my audio driver (VS 700)  if it's still the case  , restore and goodbye ..... 

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/10 05:20:53 (permalink)
    i'm also thinking about maybe the vs 700 support for X1 in the X1B patch was part of the issue ...cakewalk should look also in this area ....

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/10 08:49:02 (permalink)
    have you sent in a problem report with a minidump? if so list the cwbrn #. we need  this info toinvestigate crashes.

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/10 08:55:01 (permalink)
    Thks noel ....i will i'm jsut checking deep in the midi area ....i bought Maschine and i'm looking like suggested if it's not related to midi ....i doubt cause it hapeened even with X1B not patched 

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/10 09:08:02 (permalink)
    I opened and close several projects since 2 hours ...not a single crash , i just disabeled midi out of maschine ....gonna check deeply again specially in the control panel and the fact that changing drivers make sonar to crash....

    Just to say by the way that pressing P to open prefernces doesn't work if no project loaded ...you have to go to the menu ...this can be cosnidered on the next update/fixe as well as snap for track view and a dedicated for piano roll ;)

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/10 10:07:26 (permalink)
    Crashola number....mm i don't even count 

    Ok just opend blank prohject and played with vst to see how my data freezed are not synched to midi poisistion 30 samples of diferences ...played with the audio control panel , closed it ....unfreezed and made a fast freeze ...cool ...then closed and bam !!!!

    Gonna investigate on the freeze are and the fast freeze ....

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    Re:x1 patch just applied , still crash on close project 2011/04/10 10:11:12 (permalink)
    Done it again , fast freeze : nothing closed with issue ....so i'm fed up ....this is due to the control panel i think and asio management ....

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