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trimph1
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Unless it is specifically about how well it runs..... I guess it seems that way..a lot of threads ended up downstairs lately
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chuckebaby
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why what happen?? as far as i know its your right to your opinions.
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benstat
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'LAME' is a non Cakewalk MP3 encoder, so this thread should be moved.
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chuckebaby
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no...its 12 noon eastern.
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mike_mccue We can't even have a discussion about X1 anymore? LAME. Well that certainly changes EVERYTHING!?!
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Jim Roseberry
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Well that certainly changes EVERYTHING!?! I don't know about the rest of you... But I'm having trouble keeping up with these changes posts about the Ribbon.
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popmidi
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I'm not finding the thread where criticism of X1 was banned. Can you point me there? Thanks.
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Uh.. lots of them, they are locking threads left and right...
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VigilantSound Uh.. lots of them, they are locking threads left and right... I have seen some moved to their appropriate category, but, I don't recall seeing anything locked for a while except for direct inappropriate assaults on another member. I don't think "lots of them" or "left and right" is in anyway anything other than a totally gross exaggeration at the very least.
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VigilantSound
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The adm thread.... is oone thats fresh in my mind, it didnt seem offensive to me...
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VigilantSound
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ok, maybe notleft and right, but a few is to many in my opinion, we should be able to speak freely even if we are assualting each other verbaly...
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...wicked
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I call shenanigans. The threads that I've seen locked are ones that have clearly gone off the rails, with people assailing the company, it's employees, and other forum members. Cake still has one of the most lenient enforcements of nearly any forum I travel (aside from maybe Gearslutz, which as we know is the happiest place on earth ) I think some of these jokers are long overdue for some discipline anyhow. Crush, Supercomposer, and 10Ten should've all been banned long ago. And UnderTow, for all his technical prowess, is a pretty aggro jerkwad to Cake and everyone else, to his own detriment and seemingly just to try and get a good disagreement going over almost random things. I know X1 has had a bumpy release road, and I'm not without my own ups and downs about it, but spinning off vitriolic missives isn't going to help a single person. It's not like this is Egypt where we can kick Cake out of power and take over the codebase, so either switch hosts and park your ire and yoke it back to "bitingly witty".
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mike_mccue We can't even have a discussion about X1 anymore? LAME. I thought you had moved on to PT9
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benstat 'LAME' is a non Cakewalk MP3 encoder, so this thread should be moved. The Cakewalk encoder is the LAME encoder, they make you pay for the unlock and interface rather than the encoder itself. Interestingly the source for LAME (and libsndfile which is also LGPL) no longer appears on the Cakewalk site, which I fear may be putting them in contravention of both licences. They used to be at www.cakewalk.com/lgpl but that page just 404s now. Child
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VigilantSound
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:Wicked... Well sir i disagree with what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it...
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chuckebaby
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im half and half with wicked on that..which half im not saying cause it will create conteversy
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...wicked
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VigilantSound :Wicked... Well sir i disagree with what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it... Well good, then we're having a conversation. In which case the assumption we can no longer have any because of forum policing is invalid, right? Yay, we're all winners. Except for the losers.
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Don't forget the members that are getting banned left right and center just for saying hey we don't like the change. I will be banned again soon but I don't care. Cakewalk, Roland have screwed up royally, I had to install project 5 the other day as I was going through some old tunes that had used this program as a rewire device. All I can say if the multi-dock in project 5 is anything like the one X1 then it is a jib. The multi-dock is fine if you have two monitors but I don't and don't really need one. My monitor is 80 cm's why would I need two monitors?. Cakewalk had the formula right with 8.5.3 in terms of separate pages for each function ie: the mixer screen, the score screen. If I am correct and all we have now is one screen that you can dock and undock or re-size - then this impedes work flow unless you have a duel monitor. If Cakewalk fix the audio engine - that is as people here have requested you can edit on the fly without any audible glitches, then X1 may become an excellent live instrument. As it stands the cut-down program that we have got (this does not mean we have lost instruments or effects) is no longer what I would put into the professional category. This is purely for the fact because without those extra screens and functions it feels cheep and toy like or that is how project 5 always came across to me. Project 5 was an instrument and that is how I always used it. I see what Cakewalk is doing they are repositioning themselves for the hobbyist and the home recording market. I think there is more money in this end of the market and that is because when you get to a certain point in your knowledge the endless cycle of upgrades and DAW envy just goes out the window. It is sad though because in it's day Sonar was the program to beat. The mixer screen as I saw it was the best and still is on the market, no other DAW was as intuitive or offered RMS meters integrated into the mixer. It to me always felt like a real mixer. I will continue to use Sonar as live instrument but in the near future I will be porting over to Cubase, the features included with the full version of this program are unparalleled and now Cubase is one to beat. It is just a shame about the mixer. My belief and this is after lots of consideration and research one DAW is not enough because not one DAW offers all the right tools in one DAW. Is this a conspiracy I don't know, all I do know is I will now have to have three DAW's to meet my needs and my clients needs, where as once upon a time Sonar was it. Dr.Hash www.aaudiomystiks.com
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Supercomposer
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...wicked I think some of these jokers are long overdue for some discipline anyhow. Crush, Supercomposer, and 10Ten should've all been banned long ago. And UnderTow, for all his technical prowess, is a pretty aggro jerkwad to Cake and everyone else, to his own detriment and seemingly just to try and get a good disagreement going over almost random things. You, wicked, are a complete tool of the company and I just read your other post you seemed to direct to me, you seem paranoid stating that I am Ten Ten and Crush in one person. But, very amusing thanks. As far as I remember I have not posted idiotic videos about X1 on youtube like Crush. So don´t dare to address me again Mr., you are not in my league. And all what I said about X1 are valid points, and I still think releasing a mostly non-working, partially half working product is nothing more than a rip off and it was a bad move, selfish and dangerous to their commercial user base to release THIS without warning what to expect. And no matter if the software costs 1500.-, 150.- or 50.-, CW perhaps made millions with letting users pay to beta test their "flagship". So far I do not remember a free public beta which should have preceeded this "release". Shame on such methods and additional shame on ****ed users who defend such methods. So anyway, I don´t mind if Wicked thinks I, or Ten, or the funny Crush guy with his ridiculous videos get banned. So be it, I already stated what my opinion is, and as I long I don´t install this X1 again, I surely wont need any "technical support" or advise from Mr. "forum professional".
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trimph1
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There needs be a public beta...before anything is promoted... I don't use it near what some others have done..and I can see why there is a lot of angst about it...
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...wicked
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Sorry for the lame multiquote but Chrome on the Mac doesn't seem to like this forum's way of doing it. Don't forget the members that are getting banned left right and center just for saying hey we don't like the change. I will be banned again soon but I don't care. I don't think you can substantiate that at all. In my entire time here I've only heard/seen a small handful of bannings, none of which were surprises at all. To insinuate that Cake is censoring is near-laughable to me. All I can say if the multi-dock in project 5 is anything like the one X1 then it is a jib. The multi-dock is fine if you have two monitors but I don't and don't really need one. My monitor is 80 cm's why would I need two monitors?. This doesn't make much sense. You KNOW how the "multidock" in P5 works (it's not really a dock at all actually). And, until X1b comes out the multidock as it currently stands is far more optimized for single screen use...X1 entirely is optimized for single screen use actually. It's one of my personal peeves about it. It is sad though because in it's day Sonar was the program to beat. The mixer screen as I saw it was the best and still is on the market, no other DAW was as intuitive or offered RMS meters integrated into the mixer. It to me always felt like a real mixer. Well, market share and general usage stats would probably disagree, which is why Cake may have felt the need to shake it up. Not disagreeing in general because I do think SONAR was a better DAW than most of the others but the numbers don't lie (much). My belief and this is after lots of consideration and research one DAW is not enough because not one DAW offers all the right tools in one DAW. Sadly I think this is relatively true. But feature creep being what it is one just has to use the tools they know to do the best and fastest work, that's the way it's always been, no?
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...wicked
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Supercomposer So don´t dare to address me again Mr., you are not in my league. Um... tough. It's no secret you're one of the current crop of "problem children". Believe me I've seen many of you come and go over the years. If you were capable of having civil discourse and fact-based experiential reporting you would not be a problem child. It's to Cake's credit that they haven't sent you packing if not for anything else than for violating TOS, I would do it just because you're a PITA. But occasionally you put your foot in your mouth and other people jump on your for it, so you continue to amuse me during long days when I have time to kill watching the forum drama. I'd Ignore you otherwise, which is what other users have done. You can feel free to do the same.
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...wicked I'd Ignore you otherwise, which is what other users have done. You can feel free to do the same. Um... Wicked, sorry to interrupt, but I´d rather ignore you than SuperComposer. At least he is not acting like being on Roland´s payroll. Who do you believe you are, listing members like Undertow, 10Ten, SuperComposer and Crush as problem children and judge who should be banned? Now what, can I please get on your ignore list too? Block me, and hundreds of others who simply tell the truth. I´d feel honored.
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...wicked
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Hey I don't use the Ignore function at all, I'm in it for the love! The general "who do you think you are" comment: Um, I'm a user of the software and the forum. As such I have the same rights everyone else does to express their opinion. It's my opinion that those users repeatedly disrupt healthy discourse and create a larger gap between the rapport of the users and the Bakers. This gap makes it much more difficult to have a productive relationship that can affect the development of the software I use every day. Who are you? As for judging, I'm not. If I were they'd be banned. I'm expressing, like you. As for the first, being on Roland's payroll. Try me. I'd sign up in a second. Would working for Roland be a bad thing?
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chuckebaby
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...wicked Supercomposer So don´t dare to address me again Mr., you are not in my league. Um... tough. It's no secret you're one of the current crop of "problem children". Believe me I've seen many of you come and go over the years. If you were capable of having civil discourse and fact-based experiential reporting you would not be a problem child. It's to Cake's credit that they haven't sent you packing if not for anything else than for violating TOS, I would do it just because you're a PITA. But occasionally you put your foot in your mouth and other people jump on your for it, so you continue to amuse me during long days when I have time to kill watching the forum drama. I'd Ignore you otherwise, which is what other users have done. You can feel free to do the same. sorry if you dont like it guys...but im with wicked on this one..at least hes got the sack to say what ive been thinking...im with you wicked..right on..its your opinion..and your intitled to it...just like they have theirs..
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chuckebaby
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and at least were not making fake accounts to come on here and say how we really feel..i dont know if you were banned or just like hiding behind another name..but be a man and come from hiding.(dr.hashmk3)...and o ya...you dont get banned for just saying you dont like the change...you get banned by the way you present(you dont like the change)
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+1 for Wicked. He is a friend and been a great forum member for as long as I can remember. He has my support.
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